Off Topic ****s going down in London

Respect for your calm determination but reservations on your judgement in even responding to the blinkered, ignorant, conforformist crap.

Not a single one of the knee jerk responses regarding anarchism displayed any understanding whatsoever of what they were talking about.

As the cliche goes... They aren't worth it!

 

I was taking the piss out of the fact he made assumptions about me being a privileged bourgeois millennial when he joined the most bourgeois branch of the armed forces.

 

"You say it like violently resisting an imperial power is a bad thing. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter and all that."

 

That was in reference to the Troubles, incidentally, where my dad's uncle served in the British Army, not the attack on Westminster, and it wasn't even on this thread anyway. Try again.

 

Bollocks, you were trying to mock Happy by claiming he's bisexual.

 

If you say so. I guess that makes me the first biphobic bisexual.

 

No need to, it was posted before the attack on Westminster, but it is your view, your view. You also stated that the British Army were terrorists. When given the opportunity to pay some respect to the Police Officer who died, you introduced moving homeless people on. It is you who need to try again.

 

Stop referring to the actions of members of your family, as it in no way legitimises anything you say or do. You make everything about you so stand on your own two feet, whichever way you're swinging at the time ...

 

So not in any way relevant to the Westminster attack or the terrorist involved? How could I have supported or condoned it before it happened? It is my view that the British Army, who committed Bloody Sunday and engaged in the internment of innocent Irish Catholics, has committed vile terror attacks. Not only in Ireland either. The two world wars were the exception to the rule - the rule being the British military behaving like ****s across the globe.

When given the opportunity to pay my respects I did in fact say he was brave, despite me opposing everything his profession stands for.

 

No.

 

Terrorists use violence to forward their political aims. What on earth do you think the army are for?

Dress it up as you like but the british army are are the hired killers of a corrupt state. When you follow orders, you can't follow your conscience. I have no respect for anyone who sells out their conscience.

Same goes for pigs.

 

Our navy , army and air force have successfully defended us since 1066, against the inferior hired killers of other corrupt states.

More power to their elbow I say.

 

I hope I am not being stupid here. Do you have an alternative to the police, Armed Forces etc? Or just a free for all?

 

The British/English military didn't become an actual institution until Cromwell created the New Model Army. Before that it was made up of private levies by kings and feudal lords. And the French and Scots successfully invaded England between the 13th and 15th centuries and the Dutch in 1688. Perhaps read up on your history?

 

No thanks- don't need to.
The fighting indigenes of this country have beaten off all threats by Johnny Foreigner to occupy us.
FACT

 

Thats ok, I have no respect for delusional ****s like you, The IRA and UVF were and still are gangsters, who preyed on the religious and political instabilities of the time. They are like the Mafia, what they are best at though is getting mugs like you to support them. You swallow the propaganda like eager little fish in a big pond.
The reality is that the institutions at the time in Northern Ireland still had at their core, the division by religion, housing, jobs and services were all divided by belief. The British Army, went in to Northern Ireland to PROTECT the Catholic communities and ended up being attacked from within them.

The British Army are the paid peacekeepers of this country. Men and women from every social background, who know what they are in the services for, some it was to escape unemployment, for others it was the excitement of being in the military, but without them, this country would not be a place were idiots like you can spout your ****, this country would be a dictatorship and people like you would be trodden into obscurity. I prefer that you have a chance to debate, but you never accept that your views maybe just unworkable in practice.
Spook mentioned Internment, people of all religious beliefs were interned in Northern Ireland, not just Catholics. The idea may have been flawed, by it was meant to be a way of taking the violence off the streets. It worked to a degree, but it was flawed and maybe a mistake, but without any doubt it saved lives at the time.

 

none of those invasions where
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none of those invasions where long term successful

 

Odd isn't the very thing that was introduced to bring about government by the people is the same thing you attack now.

 

Most anarchists and libertarian socialists don't believe in the state or state institutions like professional standing armies or national law enforcement. They believe in people's militias. Historic examples being the CNT-FAI in Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War or the anarchist militias in Ukraine who fought against the Tsarist and Bolshevik forces. Modern examples would be the YPG in Syrian Kurdistan (Rojava). The main difference is that they are neither standing nor professional, meaning they're based on a rotation of volunteers. Same applies to law enforcement. If you're that interested, read Orwell's Homage to Catalonia and anarchist theorists like Kropotkin and Bakunin, and maybe some of Murray's Bookchin's work. If you can't be arse, read the Wikipedia page on anarchist law.