Off Topic ****s going down in London

So you've got loved ones caught up in it and it becomes clear the first officer on the scene is unarmed and is powerless to stop someone continuing to shoot at anything that moves? There will be a shooting incident further down the line of that there's no doubt!

 

That's that then. What worked for Dixon Of Dock Green is equally capable of dealing with things in 2017.

 

Well, good for you.Hope your family never get wiped out awaiting the arrival of an armed response unit.

 

Let's hope it never affects you or me directly then eh?

 

Well that clearly demonstrates what kind of chance they have got. If he's not even on the terrorism radar then what are they supposed to do?

Pretty sure it's rare for someone to carry out activity like this completely out of the blue.

 

That my point on arming ALL police! You can't legislate for one idiot waking one morning and deciding to cause carnage! But you can minimise the impact if you've got the chance to shoot the ****er?

 

amazingly less than 20% is Muslim related

 

That is what Polly Toynbee's wrote. And she is a prime candidate to top the list in the ****s thread and the consigning to Room 101 one as well.
You might get hit by a speeding car or a drink driver. Or killed in an accident on the road, or in the home, the most dangerous place as the odious Toynbee wrote. But those things aren't caused by someone setting out to kill as many as possible and who could be stopped by a well placed bullet.

 

I was once the victim of an armed robbery. I spoke to the police at the time and they where 50/50 as to whether they wanted to carry arms as an everyday thing. 22 years has gone by and I can imagine it would be a different score now. I have thought about how the general public would deal with an attack until the armed police arrived.

 

Who is responsible for most attacks then?

 

First off that's untrue.

Secondly there are shootings every week where the victim is unarmed (gun-wise).

If the police have more guns, the criminals will need more guns. It's not rocket science.

 

I'm not sure about all of them, but a lot of them are IRA, or Basque nationalists in spain. Norway was a white christian nutter.

The muslim connection is relatively modern. Doesn't make it less of an issue. While christian nutcases have dissipated, muslims nutcases have emerged but they're no different in my atheist mind.

 

SO if a nutcase enters your kid's class? you want teachers to have guns as well? or an armed security guard at every school?

Just think ffs. You're going to say it's not the same but it's exactly the same logic. If you say no, I don't want teachers to be armed, then you're going to still have to wait for armed response.


Things may have to change because times are changing. But that's exactly the reaction they're hoping for.



And I can flip it right back at you, hope that in your ideal scenario with armed cops, that one of your family members doesn't get shot by a stray bullet or wrong accusation.

 

So seriously, people are suggesting yesterdays tragedy could have been averted if we armed all our police?

Did the NRA suddenly take over this board?

The main casualties yesterday were from the **** driving over a bridge in a 4x4. Even if there'd been a copper on the bridge with a sniper rifle, exactly how would attempting to shoot the **** have helped?

I'm saddened by the types who glibly criticise the police, but seem keen on making them all armed, just in case.

The majority of coppers do not want to be armed.

The security measures we have in place already are proportionate and work. Out intelligence services are the best in the world, and do an awesome job of allowing us all to take for granted the freedoms we enjoy.

Nothing you can do to stop an unknown **** from jumping in his car and killing a load of people be he a terrorist or a drunk.