What sort of reception will he receive at the match against Crystal Palace, and why? I've made it quite clear about my admiration for the bloke. He has been the best manager here since Peter Reid and he might well have done better than him, had he hung around. I don't believe anybody should hold it against him for taking the England job. There's not a manager out there who wouldn't give up the Sunderland job to manage England. He and our football club just seemed to be a perfect fit. I enjoyed watching our games under him, he had the SOL absolutely bouncing and the atmosphere was great. He certainly brought the 'feel good factor' back to us, but then it was harshly pulled from under us. His methods for keeping down injuries and recovery methods were fantastic. His man management seemed to be great and he had the team drilled and ready to die for each other. His transfer business was also great with the very little sum of money he had to spend. (About half of what Moyes has spent) Allardyce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moyes
I certainly think he did a great job here, for which I am extremely grateful. I do however believe he f*cked up big style whilst in the England job and should not have got a job in England again
That's a fair comment. I would have had him back here, so can't say I'm in agreement, but I certainly understand it.
Come the end of the season if we need points the SoL will be bouncing again. I think both are dour managers who says it as it is. No problem with any of them tbh.
I was unwilling to get carried away with applauding him when he was with us. Some people were making him out to be the messiah before he'd even done anything. Having said that, he was the only manager who's risen above the problems elsewhere in the club in recent years. I'd definitely have him back and I think we'd be having a much better season this season if he hadn't left.
He did about as much as Dick, Gus, Paolo and Martin before him. In the short term he helped us massively. He did just as much to **** us up in the long term as they did though so I don't consider him all that helpful.
If we end up going down and don't come back up then I think the game where England lost to Iceland will turn out to be one of the most significant games in the history of SAFC. We'll never know what could have been but I'm sure we would have M'Vila and the rest of the money would have been invested better. I doubt we'd have so many injuries and Khazri would probably be playing like a boss. We'd be higher up in the table and a much more attractive prospect for prospective buyers. Oh well.
That's exactly why I'm reluctant to applaud him too much. However, I'm certain that he would have done the key things that were required at the beginning of the season and we would therefore be doing much better than we are. The current manager failed to do those things and imooc that's a big part of why we're in the position we're in.
Could you explain that. Not really sure how he done anything to **** us up long term? He was the only manager in years that left us in a stronger position than when he came.
This is how I feel almost word for word. But he showed little loyalty to us when it was put to the test, and the manner of his departure has left a sour taste. It was not clear why he left so abruptly, and we will possibly never know, as none of the parties involved came out of it well imo.
Another manager who's left us with an expensive, half assembled squad that will need a lot of work for the next manager. Had he given us a few years stability I'd say he'd done a great job but like the others he left the next manager with an average squad of another managers players. Not to mention the debt. He's not solely responsible. He's just another reason as to why we are in the ****.
The debt? He spent 15 million on Kirchhoff, Khazri and Kone. It was money tremendously well spent which we will make a canny profit on. None of our recent managers have been able to do that. He left the quality of squad quite a bit higher than when he first arrived and it only needed touching up to carry on where he left off.
But Moyes could have come in, signed M'Vila, replaced Kaboul, signed a striker, not fallen out with Khazri. If there was a plan in place from the Allardyce days he could have just followed on from that. He could have built on the foundations put in place by Allardyce but he wanted to change things straight from the off.
He done the same with Man Utd, from day one he tried to do things his way instead of slowly adopting his methods into the club. He's just another manager who has wasted our money when he has been trusted with it. How much of the 23 million, or whatever it is, will we see back from Djilobodji or N'Dong? Guaranteed to be more losses.
Being so blatant in the set up which exposed his willingness to not only have the knowledge but also having been involved in these activities ,ln most other industries, court and possibly a jail term would follow,before his departure I was delighted for him to be our manager. His biggest blunder .....he got caught
Big Sam always had a plan, regardless of the situation. He'd have a game plan for each and every different game which would differ slightly to the next. I don't see that with Moyes. I see him using the same negative inviting tactics game after game, unless he's got Anichebe available in which case it's lump it to Vic and hold onto it. We were in such a good position to kick on this year, and it's all gone to ****.
I'd hope he gets a good reception, did a great job for us last year, was a shame he left so quickly but who could blame him to achieve a long standing ambition (shame that went tits up for him as well as I think he'd of done well with England). He had the team in good shape up until the end of last season, Moyse hasn't managed to build on what big Sam started, though that's not all his fault he was playing catch up through the summer and was never backed as much as he needed to be (though it has to be aid the money he has spent has been largely wasted)
He deserve a polite round of Applause and nothing more. Won't stop some ****ing him off like there's no tomorrow. We should bear in mind he is a selfish greedy corrupt man. He cared no more us than he cares for palace, we were just his present club and saving us and developing us was all about him and his career. Same at palace and where ever he goes. He's just a greed greedy man who'd sell out is grandmother. The Applause is for survival but surely there's no doubt that as a person he's just a complete **** house of a person.
Would seem the plan with Sam for each and every game was to play N'Doye on the wing. Short memories. He's a decent manager but as capable of making those bizzare decisions as an manager. I wasn't sure about Sam, but he got my support. He made some strange old decision like Dick before and Moyes after. Some make him out to be perfect. Just Don't get it. That N'Doye thing wound me up for about 2 months, it wasn't working and he wasn't in a hurry to change it. Lump it to N'Doye to hild onto it. But N'Doye couldn't hold on to it could he, cause he was ****e. Like Dick and Poyet before, The players woke out of their season long slumber for Sam. I can't explain why it happens but it saved our arse again, not some tactile stroke of genius. That Sam squad was incapable of playing football like the many before and this one since. The only differance I'm seeing between Moyes and Sam is Sam got a Jan Budget to work with. AS we were all over the shop in most part under him.
