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Match Day Thread +++++Saints v West Brom 31st December 2016 3:00pm+++++

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by thereisonlyoneno7, Dec 29, 2016.

  1. Saintmagic

    Saintmagic Well-Known Member

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    First 20 mins against Spurs off the top of my head. Playing 600 games or whatever it is is not great if you want to be a high pressing team, that may change in the second half of the season where we aren't playing 3 times a week
     
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  2. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

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    It's 700.
     
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  3. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    And our 701st game kicks off in about 10 minutes. That's the whole match report, barely anything else needs to be said. Except that no winter break is still killing British football.
     
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  4. Puck

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    I'm not "Puel out" but he has to take most of the responsibility for the dullness.

    Although I'd accept dullness if the results were better.
     
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  5. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I dunno, I'm sure Burnley fans enjoyed it.
     
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  6. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Name one other team that has 3 games in 6 days.
     
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  7. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Have results been THAT bad though? We're in a cup semi, and top half still. Or have we just been spoiled the past couple of years and this is more like our true level?
     
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  8. fatletiss

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    Today was very disappointing, but I'm surprised to read so many people hinting that they are "giving up" or finding it hard to get up for games. It's our team people. I'll still
    be up for the games. I have witnessed a lot worse than this.

    I actually think we looked lacking in a bit of zest today. I thought Virgil wasn't great in Wednesday and today again he looked tired. He'll miss Everton and i'd leave him out of the Norwich game so he has a very good rest.

    West Brom were West Brom. They came to do what they do and we were probably the perfect opposition for them today. Every thing looked a little too pedestrian from us.

    Anyway, Happy New Year people. Stay strong, healthy and be a little patient with our beloved club.

    See you next year.
     
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  9. oldstocktonsaint

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    I get fed up with the team but I have a Sunderland mate to put me straight when I moan. He can quote every good game he has been to over 60 years because there are so few of them. If he gets through a season without getting relegated it is a good season. As long as they beat Newcastle all the other results are froth. Nobody has tobea football supporter. You chose to be a Saints fan .
     
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  10. Schad

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    Top half is a product of the teams around us as much as anything. We're on pace for 48 points, with 38 goals scored and 44 against...would be our worst points haul, worst goals total (by some margin) and second-worst defensive record over the past four years. Our level, on average over the preceding three seasons, has been 60 points, 56 goals for and 40 against; we're heading toward a pretty substantial step back even if the table doesn't reflect it.
     
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  11. saintkeef

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    But you are ignoring one fact. This time last year we had scored 9 more goals than this and that's our problem no predator up front!
     
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  12. Osvaldorama

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    Oh, and Martina has to never play again except in a huge injury crisis.

    He is dreadful. Somehow he performed above himself last season, which was fair enough. I think the midfield pivot gave him a bit more freedom. Under Puel he is just painful to watch. I would rather play any saints academy youngster there than watch that embarrassment.
     
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  13. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah I've clearly ignored that... only been banging on about it since August <doh>
     
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  14. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    Everyone has a tough fixture pile up over this period. I'm sorry, but even a half fit Cedric is better than martina
     
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  15. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    So the answer is we've been spoiled the past few years then? :)

    Just making the point that the results seem worse than what they actually are cos it's pretty boring to watch for most people.
     
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  16. Schad

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    I mean, when we've been back in the PL four years, and in three of those we've been in European contention, we have a pretty good claim to that being a level we can reasonably hope to attain on an annual basis. That this might be 'our level' now really reflects a lack of effort on the part of our management to aspire to stay there.

    The danger, of course, is that once one's level is a points total in the mid/high 40s, you're only a couple things going wrong at a bad time from finding yourself in the Championship.
     
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  17. Lff

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    It just feels like too much football for both the players and the supporters. One thing that should definitely change, but won't, is the Euro league. Get back to straight knock outs.

    Everyone looked jaded today. Fair play to West Brom who played it perfectly with the added bonus of an amazing strike for their second goal.

    When you are winning you can't play enough, as it is it looks like we all need a good rest.
     
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  18. Libby

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    To be fair, the level thing was slightly in cheek. More making the point that those 3 top 8 finishes doesn't make us automatically a top 8 club, and anyone without tinted glasses would of looked at the change of manager, loss of players in the Summer and poor Summer and would have expected a drop down the table this year. Particuarly as it will be a 'traditional' top 6 this year.

    I'm just making the point that if we were more entertaining, people wouldn't be saying results are terrible. It's the combination imo.
     
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  19. ImpSaint

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    All this does is to say how much was Lallana worth, how much was Mane worth............to us, not market value!!!

    2 players that drew 3 or 4 players and gave us so much leeway in how poor the rest of the squad was.
     
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  20. ImpSaint

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    Killing British Football? You mean us? That is nonsensical rubbish when every team is playing the same congested period.
     
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