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the stodgy jobbie said:
why can't you blame the recent attacks on refugees??
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Because the people that committed the attacks could have done so without being accepted into Germany as refugees. A lot of recent attacks were also committed by EU nationals.

You can't say that allowing refugees in caused the attacks without being able to say that without letting them in there would have been no attacks on German soil. If anything the actions of the German government probably saved more lives on both sides than if they'd let the whole thing go to ****.
 
Toby said:
Because the people that committed the attacks could have done so without being accepted into Germany as refugees. A lot of recent attacks were also committed by EU nationals.

You can't say that allowing refugees in caused the attacks without being able to say that without letting them in there would have been no attacks on German soil. If anything the actions of the German government probably saved more lives on both sides than if they'd let the whole thing go to ****.
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Surely you can blame the attacks carried out by refugees on refugees?
 
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MalteseMick said:
There's roughly 3,500 deaths a year from vehicular misadventures in Germany. This year there will be roughly 3,512.
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If yer Aunt had baws she'd be yer Uncle.

What percentage of those 3,500 deaths are done by a madman in a lorry carrying out a terror attack?

Exactly.
 
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Toby said:
How is the citizenship playing the price? You can't blame the recent terrorist attacks on refugees, who knows, they may have suffered twice as many attacks had they turned all the refugees down.

The whole situation is a ****ing mess, the one thing the EU couldn't do is sit by and let it all go to ****. People would have been dying outside the borders.
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The ways in which the citizenship is suffering is plainly evident with increased tensions, strain on local services and increased terror-related activity within their own borders.

The refugees, no matter what you think of them, have a divisive influence on a majority of communities into which they are placed. The refugee influx and the rise of the far-Right in Europe can be directly correlated also.
 
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VenomPD said:
If yer Aunt had baws she'd be yer Uncle.

What percentage of those 3,500 deaths are done my a madman in a lorry carrying out a terror attack?

Exactly.
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Aye, but how many humans would have died in Syria had they not fled? Plus all those young migrants will start doing work, not like those lazy aging locals <SN>. It's a big old utilitarian win.
 
VenomPD said:
The ways in which the citizenship is suffering is plainly evident with increased tensions, strain on local services and increased terror-related activity within their own borders.

The refugees, no matter what you think of them, have a divisive influence on a majority of communities into which they are placed. The refugee influx and the rise of the far-Right in Europe can be directly correlated also.
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Stop confusing him with logic please
 
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There's a crumb of comfort in that a dedicated, ideologue with the express wish of causing as much destruction as possible, possibly training all his adult life for this very moment can only manage to cause about the same amount of deaths as a fat ****ing mess bin driver telling fibs so he doesn't have to get out the cabin and pick a bin up.
 
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MalteseMick said:
Aye, but how many humans would have died in Syria had they not fled? Plus all those young migrants will start doing work, not like those lazy aging locals <SN>. It's a big old utilitarian win.
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I don't have an issue with anyone fleeing a life of war and oppression. My problem is the way in which European nations have dealt with it, it has been shambolic at best and reckless at worst.
 
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the stodgy jobbie said:
How is talking about terrorist attacks relevant on a thread about terrorist attacks?
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I was talking about allowing refugees in. If refugees didn't exist then of course they couldn't commit terror attacks, as they wouldn't exist.

Do you think that allowing refugees into Germany caused the terror attacks? That's what you can't prove. Get it?
 
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