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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by poolie_mackem, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. poolie_mackem

    poolie_mackem Well-Known Member

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    Hello chaps been away for a couple of days in Newcastle, first chance I have had to talk about yesterdays news. I nearly spat my pint all over the place when I seen Quinn wasn't chairman anymore on the yellow bar on SSN in the bar haha.

    Well for me as Syd said on a post I have just been reading its a good move, for all the good Quinny has done as chairman everyone's day comes and we need a proper business man at the helm of the club someone who is not scared to make hard decisions and for me with Short now our chairman its shows that he is totally committed to our football club.

    I also think Quinn's new role at the club is a great one, there is no one at the club better than Niall to sell the brand overseas, he is one of us and I love the bloke, its just we need a ruthless chairman and a smart business man in charge and to me Short fits the bill.

    As for Brucie I think his time is running out now, Short and Bruce seem to get on well and Short isn't daft he won't rush into anything without having a plan A,B,C,D all the way to Z but Short to me will be ruthless enough to sack Brucie if things aint going right, at the end of the day he is a mega rich business man and you only succeed in that sort of business by being able to make the tough decisions at the right time.


    For me yesterday's events are very encouraging from the club, I can see Short bringing his own manager in before the season is out and I think we will be quite suprised in a good way, I don't think it will be a MON or a Hughes as that would be going no further forward as we are at the minute and being realy backed in there first transfer market, weather that is Jan or the summer we will have to wait and see.

    Since Quinn took over we have improved bit by bit each season, we got up at the first attempt and Roy kept us up, second season syndrome? Well that never happened as we stayed up yet again, 3rd year back in the prem we improved a little bit more and certainly improved the playing squad with the likes of Bent and Cana being brought in by Brucie and last year we finished in the top 10. This year things seemed to have stalled and its time for something new, we have Short now as chairman and I would like us to be realy ambitious and go for a good manager who can take us that bit further and be realy backed in the transfer market. David Moyes with money would be brilliant for us, unlike Brucie he knows how to address creativity and balance into the midfield, look at his Everton teams over the past couple of years they have had the likes of Arteta, Cahill, Pienaar, Fellaini, Drenthe and Manuel Fernandes. Maybe a club like ours could persuade him as he has no money to spend at Everton, it must be frustrating when he had 2 use the loan market to improve his squad this summer.
     
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  2. Bizarreknives

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    I would give my right arm for Moyes to be our manager, just can't see it happening.
     
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  3. Chappaz

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    Tbh I hope our club move in this direction now after seeing what Short and co said about these new plans. With the FFP rules coming in it makes a lot of sense to build up alternative revenue in overseas interests.
     
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  4. cuteybuns

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    I don't understand the position at Everton. The bookies have Moyes as fourth favourite to be sacked at 9/1 but I don't know the thinking behind it. I think Everton would be mad. But if there are some tensions there, it might work for us. I think his demands would be far less than most of the candidates cited because he's been used to so little.

    Does anyone think Short would take a shot at Wenger? I find it incredible, but the storm clouds seem to be thickening for him at Arsenal now. Would he take another EPL job? - I think he likes it here. And he's not a massive spender. Anyone fancy that?
     
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    On one hand I am very happy with Short as the chairman, as you say a business veteran will be good. However, I hope he has an advisor for football matters (I am sure he will do) who has the qualities Quinn bought to the table as sometime business can mean knee jerk which is never good.

    Could we see a DoF role at the club? If so, who could it be? DoF needs to know about football, but should be a **** manager so they will listen to the actual manager (whoever that might be) and not overrule him. Quinn knows about footie, but was a **** manager (and knew it) which is what made his relationship with Managers so good.

    An intelligent version of Beckham is what we would need in that role, internationally recognised star getting players to sign on the dotted line and who can advise Short on football matters without stepping on the managers toes.
     
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  6. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Me for sure...
     
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  7. poolie_mackem

    poolie_mackem Well-Known Member

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    maybe not a director of football but David Dein done a briliant job at Arsenal working with Arsene, maybe someone like him as the man between the manager and the board would be great for the club
     
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    "maybe not a director of football but David Dein done a briliant job at Arsenal working with Arsene, maybe someone like him as the man between the manager and the board would be great for the club "

    Absolutely!

    Dein's absence is arguably the real reason why Arsenal are in their current mess. I think that we are going to see a change of "business process" now that Mr Short has his hands on the tiller. He is unlikely to remain as chairman for that long I suspect but is probably of the mind that the club needs to project as a business concern, run by proper business people, and not glorified car salesmen or bath makers as in the past. Any changes that Ellis Short introduces will be significant, far reaching and I believe to the huge benefit of the club.
     
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  9. butcher58

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    Bruce was on flight from newcastle to Dubai today,my son was on same flight.Must mean he is still flavour of the month with ES.
     
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    I think that was already planned mate. Isn't he plannng to watch UAE v S. Korea or something? Might be wrong.
     
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    He's maybe gone to fetch Gyan back.:emoticon-0104-surpr
     
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  12. billofengland

    billofengland Well-Known Member

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    From an earlier time, but the world has turned full circle at Sunderland, Short aint a fool, anyway , a bit of history from 2009, to add to Poolies thread.

    Short pulls the plug on Sunderland spending• Wearside club adjusts to worsening economic climate


    Simon Williams guardian.co.uk, Thursday 26 February 2009 19.20 GMT

    Niall Quinn, the Sunderland chairman, has outlined a more prudent spending policy.

    Sunderland's chairman, Niall Quinn, has given his clearest indication yet that the club's lavish spending in the transfer market is over as the board adjusts to an increasingly harsh economic climate.

    With the Irish-backed Drumaville Consortium, which bankrolled Quinn's takeover of the club, hit hard by a deepening recession, the American Ellis Short has emerged as the key financial figure. Short, the major shareholder, funded £40m of signings last summer but wants to see more prudence at the Stadium of Light.

    In January Sunderland began trimming the squad constructed by the previous manager, Roy Keane, by offloading the striker El-Hadji Diouf and the full-back Pascal Chimbonda. Short did not, according to Quinn, demand the pair's removal, but they were decisions he approved of.

    "He doesn't tell us what to do, he supports us," said Quinn. "But he likes to see us being intelligent and slick about our business and the disposal of some excess players was a help to us economically and also to the dressing room.

    "The club has never had the sort of backing before that he is providing now and we will have it as long as we are showing ourselves to be a smart outfit."

    Smart perhaps translates as constrained, but Quinn denied Short was only in it to make money in the short term and pointed as evidence to the club's decision not to sell the striker Kenwyne Jones to Tottenham Hotspur last month.

    He said: "You look at the Kenwyne Jones saga this transfer window. The offers were well in excess of £15m – near enough £20m - and we said no. That kind of says it all. The easiest thing to do there financially, if there was no real belief in what we were trying to do, was for the ownership to take the easy money and field a lesser player every week. That may have happened at this club in the past. He's really committed, which is great, but we have to prove to him that what he is committing himself to is more than sustainable."

    Well that was then, and now is now, the futures bright I recon.
     
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