It's not about his performances now though as I see it. It's about him saying to Sterling if he wants to go far in football he'll need to knuckle down, work hard, play with passion, pride and commitment and the medals and plaudits will come like they came for him. Leading by example is as much about what you've done as what you're doing.
True but then he told torres to go so for me he should have lost the armband then I'm so glad the last 3 years are over and the long long long goodbye is just about done as it's a talky dragged us down with him
It ain't happening... We're not going to pay him over 150k a week and he's on about 200k at the moment.
Which doesn't alter what I said, that the older players can be influencing the youngsters to play better without necessarily playing well themselves. The two things don't follow. Provided the older players are respected for what they've done in the game, they have a huge potential to better influence the younger players.
Although I understand what you're saying, no team has won anything with players not pulling their weight on the pitch but just being a decent influence off it.
They'd be better off as coaches in this case Like mcmanaman doing a bit with our u21s Senior players on massive wages need to continue and lead... end of imo
So can Gerrard Didn't his goal just win us vital points. If you look at our most successful teams they had a better balance of old and young than we will have when the oldsters go. Which is what I started out saying. Once the old hands leave we will be unbalanced in terms of experience.
Not sure I follow - so you're saying that we should carry older players even if they aren't playing well, because they can influence and guide the youngsters? Experience is a myth - quality is what defines a team and player. Lallana is older than Coutinho but who would you rather have in your team? That's not to say that the youngsters don't need guidance and 'experienced' players are welcome - I just don't think we should be actively seeking players with the criteria of experience. If they have it, great. But more importantly, do they have the quality?
My original post was: I said if Yaya came, which he wont, we'd have brothers playing. G said Kolo will leave at end of season so won't happen anyway. I then said we will be unbalanced when the older guys leave [Toure. Gerrard, Johnson, possibly Lucas]. We'll lose experience and the value that brings to the dressing room. Various people then said how awful the older players had been. My response to that is, it's unquantifiable the value they bring because we don't know how an all young team will play since it hasn't happened yet - back to my original point - we'll find out next season maybe. We have no idea whether or not the youngsters are 'inspired' [for want of a better word] by the experienced players. So you can't say it's a myth unless you know for definite that Gerrard for example. isn't the reason why Coutinho plays better and similarly I can't say it is. But unless you've been in a dressing room and for that matter, ignore what players actually say about the older hands making them better, you can't dismiss it out of hand.
That's fair enough - but that doesn't mean that the youngsters have to carry these older players on the pitch - which is what's happening at the detriment of the team. But don't forget - we have the likes of Lucas, Skrtel, Lambert etc. How much experience do we need? I really doubt that these players are guiding our youth off the pitch - do you think Lambert is offering advice to the likes of Coutinho and Sterling? Are Skrtel and Lucas telling Can how to defend well? Again - I highly doubt it. Experience and age are two different things - I'm against signing players because of their age, not experience. Coutinho has far more relevant experience that Lallana despite being younger and playing less games. What we need are more 24-26 year olds in the team who are entering the prime of their careers.
I rate him but he would only be a short term solution. For the kind of money we'd have to pay short term is not an option.
Why on gods green earth would anyone pay Yaya toure 250k per week when his legs have gone This is like the pirlo muck. It's never getting us up the table
