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Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by Rushmere, Aug 22, 2011.

  1. Rushmere

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    (This is not a PJ out post nor a suggestion that he should go - before anyone suggests it)

    Putting your own personal views of what should or shouldn't happen to one side, do you think that the Club would sack PJ, or that he might resign, if we lost by four or five on Saturday?

    I have this feeling that something might well have to give if we suffer three heavy defeats in a row.
     
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  2. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    I bet our sweet Camilla could do a better job atm!

    Speaking of which have you bumped into her lately Rushy! <laugh>
     
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    I seriously think if PJ either was sacked or walked we would be favourites for relegation. A new manager would be totally screwed once the transfer window closes with the current team. I still think with a couple of signings we can salvage the season. I am hoping the performance on Saturday wont be as bad as everyone is predicting even if the result doesn't go our way! 7-1 to Posh is surely is as bad as things can get! Will be very interested to see how many fans turn up on Saturday....really need to get behind the team and urgently get some confidence and morale back! COYB
     
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  4. ThaiCanary

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    It's a damned good question Rushmere...................

    It would be hard to comprehend a manager staying at any professional club with a string of results in that scenario but if it would be right for PJ to walk or for the board to sack him I just do not know.

    Is it the manager at fault? Up to a point yes as he has bought the new players and not got them working together yet. He turned things round last season with a settled team, all be it not a very good one.

    Is it the players fault? - A players who is playing in their normal position, then as a 'professional' then absolutely yes they are at fault and PJ should not lose his job. He should be given more time to get them working as a team.

    I do not like this "Players need time to gel" statement. As a professional footballer playing at left back (for his living) should be able to that at every football team he plays for. Same for every other position on the pitch. Having said that, human beings are odd creatures and allow other aspects of their life to influence what they do on a daily basis which changes all too frequently which lowers their performance.
     
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  5. JonahJameson

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    We’re surely one of the favourites for relegation now, especially if there’s another slaughtering against Leeds. Surely we’re totally screwed when the transfer window closes with Jewel in charge – he’s hardly inspiring confidence is he?

    Jewel inherited a shambles from the worst manager in our history (though if this carries on he’ll be the second worst), but he’s made eight signings and has only strengthened our two biggest priority areas (right back and central defence – offering the superstar Delaney a new deal notwithstanding) with one player, and he was unwanted by one of our championship rivals. Kennedy mark 2? Good player, but only fit for one game in ten?

    Another man might not have any time in this transfer window for permanent signings, but he’ll have time in the loan window and he might just have the wit to organise and inspire the players into a team that won’t lose by eight goals to the Red Lion second eleven.

    I hope Jewel proves me wrong and turns it around. I hope the Wigan/Bradford Jewel still exists somewhere and that the Derby Jewel isn’t here forever. I just have zero faith that we are lumbered with anything but the Derby version. I fear we are just wasting even more time and heading for League One in the process. Sometimes when you’re in a bad run, you can see what the manager is trying to do, you see signs of progress, of aspects of promise. You have the notion that things will get better; just ride it out and let him get on with it. Does anyone get any of that now? Cresswell and Chopra apart? Somebody please reassure me!!

    Perhaps that bloke on here the other day was right when he described Jewel as of a former era, now forever to be left floundering. I hope to Zeus that in two months time I’ll be on here grovelling apologies, but I doubt it.
     
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  6. JonahJameson

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    Neither do I. All teams have new players at the start of the season &#8211; your lot have brought in seven, we have eight and haven&#8217;t seen hide nor hair of one of them. Norwich play like a team with determination, confidence and ability, we play like a bunch of little girls who only met five minutes before the match and collapse like wimps at the first bit of pressure.

    When players move clubs they can react and adapt slowly or badly to the different environment, different football and different bosses. But it&#8217;s the same for everyone and it&#8217;s part of the job of the club staff and especially to the manager that these problems are catered for and that they are organised into something that resembles a team that have some idea of how to move a football around a pitch.
     
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  7. Rushmere

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    The question was not about what we would want to do or whether we think PJ should go / stay / jump off a bridge.

    I was just interested as to what you think the board or PJ might do if we are on the wrong end of another thrashing on Saturday. Will the 'ITFC way' come into play where they support PJ through thick and thin? Would PJ consider walking?
     
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  8. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    Managers rarely walk these days because their contracts are worth so much. I'm sure PJ would rather come in and be humiliated every week than lose £2m or whatever it would be.

    If there wasn't a transfer window I think you'd get a new man in but the only person who has any hope of sorting this mess out is PJ himself so no I don't think they would sack him for another three or four spankings.
     
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  9. portmanpaul

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    no chance they will sack him, no chance he will resign
     
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  10. johnnywarksmoustache

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    All this talk about changing managers again is just blind stupidity. We need more transition like Bullard needs hookers and money! Please get a grip and just face up to the fact that Jewell isn't going anywhere!
     
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  11. Rushmere

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    JWM. please read the first line of my thread properly. I was only interested in your thoughts as to whether the club or PJ would take any action if we lost heavily again on Saturday?

    I assume your answer is no?
     
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  12. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    [video=youtube;00bOEfTPM3s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00bOEfTPM3s[/video]
     
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  13. johnnywarksmoustache

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    I am surprised that we are really having a discussion about Paul Jewell being sacked at all! Yes drastic measures and all that but we would be throwing the baby out with the bath water!
     
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  14. Rushmere

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    Slowly losing the will to live........................ :emoticon-0120-doh:
     
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  15. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    You've changed your turn Warky. Can I remind you how angry you were at the weekend?
     
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  16. johnnywarksmoustache

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    We were all angry at the weekend Yorkie! <grr>

    Knee jerk reactions and all that! Sacking Jewell isn't going to solve any of our deep rooted problems is it!
     
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  17. Rushmere

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    So JWM, you don't think that there is a fart's chance in a hurricane that the club would sack PJ or that PJ would walk?

    Good stuff..... wish I hadn't of asked now though <whistle>
     
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  18. johnnywarksmoustache

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    I just can't see how him leaving would actually solve anything!
     
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  19. Rushmere

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    I actually agree 100% JWM but that wasn't the point of the post............
     
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  20. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    FFS this isn't about your own opinions. Rushmere wants to know what Marcus Evans, Simon Clegg and Paul Jewell are thinking!!! OK!!!! If you can't answer then don't write on this thread!

    Think that should do it Rushmere <laugh>
     
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