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  1. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    I wonder what people on here think about the news that we're the #1 selling club of the last decade.

    We've earned more money selling players than any other club. Suarez, Raheem, and Torres alone brought us a Gerrez-sized buttload of cash.

    I see two interpretations:

    1) We've sold our opportunity at silverware. We've gone for pictures of Queen Lizzies head Instead of silverware.

    2) FSG have done a good job in the selling side of the transfer market (even if they suck at buying).
     
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  2. astro

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    When Moshiri cashes in on Lukaku in January (bought the club for free with the Stones and Lukaku sales) Everton will be up there too.

    But that doesn't mean they sold their chance for silverware. They had no chance, it just reflects the insane market.

    Very important to recognise last window we raised £71m without selling a single first XI player.
     
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  3. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    answer B, since fsg we have got top dollar for all of our outgoing stars and tbh i feel much more confident of keeping any player we want to keep at the club with fsg.

    my opinion on..
    sterling - 50m! take it he aint that good. pleased
    Suarez - knew he was going anyway, great money for him in the end (at the time) and they played hardball to keep him, and did so, - sad but impressed!
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Its an interesting question for sure.

    I think if we ignore what happened before 2010 then we have had many significant challenges in the early years of fsg. Seeing massive losses year on year needing to be rebalanced, finding means to increase revenue, dealing with years of bad investments, making pretty bad errors as fsg learn what football is About?

    In short what are the major sales and what are just platers we lost on.

    Like... Carroll could be considered a major sale at 19mil but... well he wasn't was He? He was a major disaster.

    Torres was a 50mil fee at a time when that would be top 10 players globally and he was awful after moving so he looked like his legs were gone.

    Suarez was a how many more times can we have him suspended like this.

    Sterling was a ****.

    I don't see an awfully long list of players gone on to bigger and better things abd I don't see an awfully big list of players we simply had to sell for the fee.

    I do see a Scandalous amount of bad buys and constant shifting on of players... if you buy 7 players you will have to shift 4 or 5 by extension.

    In many ways the commolli buying to please Dalglish was mostly terrible, 90% of rogers was awful.
     
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    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    It's only 'the last decade' because the figures start at 2010, in reality it's only based on a 6 year period. A third of the amount comes from just 3 transfers, Sterling, Torres and Suarez. I don't know what you could read into it other than we had a 6 year spell when we had some exceptional players who's ambitions weren't being met at the club.
     
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    I don't think we've sold out as such, just made sure we got good money for those who wanted to leave anyway. There'll always be players who want to move on and we can't tie them down for long against their will. The task is to make the club successful enough for them to want to stay.

    I can't really get excited about the club's finances either way - we have people for that.
    Without a sugar-daddy we can't compete financially with those who have, and I don't want us to. As long as the club is run well enough for us to keep getting players at a reasonable level I'm happy. We now have a manager who I believe is capable of making a competitive side from the players we can afford.
     
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    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    I agree with Saint I don't really look much into the money aspect of the game. The current situation means that we have the buying power if the right player or players become available.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I think the main reality is we pay half what city and utd pay.

    Then add arsenal offer cl and recent fa cups and same or bigger wages.
     
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    I never want us to break the bank with signings anyway. I want the next superstar, not the last one.
     
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    We've done that a lot, Alonso, Suarez, Torres big names but not considered the very best. If I had a punt at one right now I'd go Isco at RM would love him at Anfield.
     
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    I am worried if Mane continue to be a success we may need to give him extended contract next year to prevent Barcelona and
    Real Madrid and others taking him from us.
     
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  12. RogerisontheHunt

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    Notice how neither club did much in the Summer, both are over stocked on Forwards atm and Real have a transfer ban coming.

    Selling is part of the game, unless you are the two afore mentioned Spanish clubs or Bayern there always someone bigger to attract a player, players are all pretty mercenary these days always looking for bigger and better things. Better to do it well and and make money of players who want away than to be stuck with a load of sulky children and lose them for nothing like Arsenal. Just wish we can finally get the other side right, the buying.

    Also think BR was a misstep, bad in the transfer market and not the man to match a players ambitions.
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I perosnally would like the 3 lads dortmund snatched off us. Guerrerio, mor, and dembele.

    Pulisic is there too.. like... they will have some team with that lot. someone will fail of course but thats how it goes.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Yeah... the fact is barring a very very rare player there is always another guy. players retire, players get injured. there is a world chock full of players.

    Having the best possible upper management structures and scouting/recruitment systems for coaches and players is more important than retaining a star like suarez.

    90% of LFC issues have stemmed form this lack of structure and expertise at the top IMO... and will continue to do so. the club has abdicated responsibility and given it all to Klopp which is great until he leaves... (hopefully not for at least 5 years)

    LFC will rue not having a good technical director and solid recruiting structure... jonathon woodgate is our spain and portugal scout FFS.. thats villa type debacle.
     
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  15. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    If that becomes the case, then it means Mane will have had a fantastic season or two which is only good for the club.

    My view is that it's easy to sell our best players for good money. We've been blessed with quality footballers and we've made good profits on them.

    Where the club have failed is selling the fringe players, or failure to sell and having to release on a free. I know the money is hyper inflated but to get £21m for Smith and Ibe, selling Skrtel for £6m and getting Matip for a free and recouping our money back for Benteke. Great business.
     
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    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    And this is what klopp wants - young talented players. They won't be big names so we have to show faith, time and support in them.

    Not many people would have wanted Pulisic or Dembele for the fees rumoured.
     
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