That it's not embarrassing to have lost to Bradford City. Personally, I am embarrassed. * Embarrassed a Club the size of Arsenal continues to lose its best players every year * Embarrassed that Arsenal lost to a League 2 outfit * Embarrassed that the players didn't show up for the first half * Embarrassed that Gervinho plays for Arsenal * Embarrassed that Ramsey plays for Arsenal * Embarrassed that a manager lauded as a genius has zero tactical awareness - We can pick the first 11 for almost every game with 90% accuracy - We can pick who will come off, and for who, again, with a staggering amount of accuracy * Embarrassed by Wenger continually "keeping faith" in overpaid, underperforming dross * Embarrassed by Wenger saying the fans shouldn't be embarrassed I've always, always been a Wenger supporter, but to be quite honest, he's a joke now. Form since November: LDDWWDDLLWL - 3 wins in 11. If they were all league games, that would be 13 points from a possible 33 - that's marginally better than relegation material! Of those wins, one was against 10-man Spurs, the another was only thanks to 2 dodgy penalty decisions against WBA. I realise that despite this, Arsenal are (by some miracle) just 2 points off the Top4. Despite this, and irrespective of where Arsenal finish the season, Wenger should go. He won't change his methods, he has had plenty of opportunity to learn tactics, to play players in the right positions, to buy players who fit in his "system." Even with the squad that Arsenal have right now, they're woefully underperforming. Wenger has until the end of the season, and unless he performs an absolute miracle to change my mind, I want him gone.
Yeah I pretty much agree. The board wont spend any money and keep selling our best players while Wenger is slowly loosing his touch. Bad times.
I think RVP having a stormer last season gave us a false sense of security, of how much Wenger has lost his touch. As soon as Fergie started getting friendly and sympathetic towards Wenger, signaled the day that Wenger was no longer the force he once was. He's had his time with Arsenal and he's helped them build a solid financial foundation for the club. But the guy is clearly past his best and someone younger and with new ideas needs to come and in and make some major changes. Time for Arsenal to take the next step and bring in someone new. Only one man stands out above everyone else for me, and that is Guardiola.
Show mercy crazy Romans. Your saviour has not forsaken you. Have faith , the season of goodwill is upon us.
The more I think about it, the more this summer is the time for Wenger to go. There's no major international tournaments, so a new manager would have all summer to buy and sell, and a full pre-season with all the players to get to grips with the club. I want a new manager to step in immediately after the final game of the season with a full summer to do his business, impose himself on the club and get things freshened up and rolling in the right direction. Wait for the summer after and there's the World Cup, so his chances would be highly limited.
Exactly right. In fact the management should be going out now and looking for suitable managers behind the scenes. Replace Wenger at the end of the season and give him a good send off and allow the new manager to bed in with a good pre-season/summer clearout/new transfers.
I can understand your frustrations, I really can. However I think you are being harsh on Wenger to be fair; the truth is that from the days of Vieira, Bergkamp, Pires, Henry, Ljunberg et al and your lack of financial clout you were always going to struggle to replace them. Every time a player steps up and becomes a top, top player you invariably lose them to a rival, Fabregas and Van Persie etc... Unfortunately a manager can only compete with big spending rivals in the short term; over a longer period the fact is that money will often win through. Those asking for Guardiola must be having a laugh; whilst he did well at Barca he had he luxury of the best team the world has seen for a long time. Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, and not forgetting what some consider the best player ever (certainly the best player right now) in Messi. I fail to see what Guardiola will bring that Wenger doesn't; infact all the qualities that you need right now are more suited to Wenger then Guardiola.
Just NO. I dont remember Juande Ramos winning this is his first four years....(consider we've won NOTHING for almost eight years) La Liga (3): 2008–09, 2009–10, 2010–11 Copa del Rey (2): 2008–09, 2011–12 Supercopa de España (3): 2009, 2010, 2011 UEFA Champions League (2): 2008–09, 2010–11 UEFA Super Cup (2): 2009, 2011 FIFA Club World Cup (2): 2009, 2011 Not only has he already won everything he set out to win he's done that whilst playing beautiful football.
Yes but he has had arguably one of the best teams ever assembled, some of the best players ever (Messi, Xavi, Iniesta), a club that can attract almost anyone, competing basically against only one club for their signatures, a time when every player seems to want to play for Barca! Now put him in charge of Arsenal and suddenly its a different ball game.
Now now don't be like that. He only created one of the best ever club sides in history. But let's not get facts in the way....
Yeah; because he inherited a really **** squad didn't he? Not to mention their main rivals lacking stability. Look at what has happened since Mourinho came to Madrid...... not saying Guardiola is poor but just putting some realism out there!!!!!!
Having the best players doesn't always equate to instant success. He still had to get these players together and make them into an unstoppable force. Take Mancini for example. He has the best squad in the Premiership. He has 4 top quality strikers of which would walk into any Premiersip side. He has world class players all over the place, but finished rock bottom in the Champions league and went life and death with a Man U team that was inferior in terms of quality and was missing it's top players through injury. It's not just about the players, it's what you do with them that makes the difference. Just look at Fergie.
Of course he inherited a top squad, but it's the small things that made them so formidable. The way they close down play and defend as a unit was awesome. They didn't just rely on there ability, but Guardiola made them work really hard. On a side note, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich all had and still have teams just as good as Barcelona, during Guardiola's rein.
Well Mancini did win the prem last season... so your point is a little mute! If anything the fact he was able to get the ego's to pull together was a fantastic bit of management in fairness. Most clubs struggle to transition the pressure of challenging for the league and champs league in the beginning, UTD struggled at first, Liverpool could not sustain both, and Chelsea did'nt fair much better going for both even with Mourinho and a ton of money. They were doing THAT badly under Rikkjard were they?
So what your saying is Guardiola is perfect for a club with existing world class players, a club who can attract and pay top fees and wages, has a fantastic youth structure, only has to compete with one of club in their country for success.......... sounds perfect for Arsenal!!!! In your own admittance Guardiola is a tweaker of an already solid foundation; not what Arsenal have right now!
I think you're an idiot, and even I think you could win a lot with the team he inherited. All you'd have to do was not to be ignorant with your staff basically. Using his trophies to distinguish him with Ramos is stupid. Most of guardiolas additions to the squad were actually flops or disappointments. Pique might be one of the rare exceptions. All the rest of his signings either flopped or were bit part players compared to what their transfer fees suggested. He can turn out to be a great versatile manager but stop saying he's already proven everything at barca. Contrast the team he would inherit at arsenal with the one he inherited there... Anyone that thinks we are better off in the short term by getting rid of Wenger needs to sleep on it, and use their heads the next morning. Whenever Wenger leaves he needs to leave a strong team behind, a strong enough team that would survive the transition of managers. If we get a better budget it should be Wenger that should improve the team with it. Only after that is it imaginable to let him go. Calm down and remember that even the worst year under Wenger's 16 years we've ended up much higher than the average of the 16 years before Wenger. This delusion that we've become a joke club or have ruined our reputation under Wenger is just that, a delusion.
