Yet again I find myself questioning that man's honesty and fair play. Last year it was mooted he effectively threw the game v P Vale in order to squeeze more cash out of the owners. I thought about it then dismissed it. Now here we are a year later having gone out to another Mickey Mouse side at home without so much as a murmur. Could COLIN be telling the lads to go out and "take it easy"? Because lets be honest, he has previous with regard to gamesmanship (Sheff Utd v W Brom 03/02 and calling for a players leg to be broken etc). There are no depths to which this man wouldn't sink to get his own way. Its a disgrace.
Just to be clear, what do you think he was trying to get out of throwing the game, if indeed he did? Also, Norwich and Swansea lost, do you think their managers are equally unscrupulous?
Having been to the game and heard him on the radio, I am totally pissed off. Tonights efforts were half hearted, he spent the whole first half in the dug out not one shout of encouragement to the team. I travelled 120 miles tonight to watch that **** and once more the programme notes say "the cup isn't our priority". Well how's about we play it behind closed doors next season and then we won't be tempted to waste our hard earned cash on that effortless tripe!
Swords, sadly integrity is in short supply in our game nowadays, especially when it comes to whatever the League Cup is called this year - too many clubs putting out very weak teams. Is Warnock worse than most? Before he joined us, I like many others thought so - a buffoon who demeaned the game regularly. Now I think he's a genius, but will revert to my original opinion if he does not keep us up this year. So I have no integrity either.
Maybe the same as last season, maybe to "concentrate" on the league who knows? Whatever the reason he's doing the Competition a disservice and betraying the fans. How many more years are we going to be dumped out of the Cups by joker teams? As for Norwich and Swansea, I don't know and I don't care.
Didn't most of the players in the side play throughout the pre-season?? Which according to warnock and co. was the best pre-season ever? Sums up our attitude really. Even though our second XI is absolutely shiiite, man for man we are better than rochdale, or so I thought. Lets hope its just a small blip like last season. But a disgraceful result nonetheless.
Tbh, disappointed but not overly surprised. Will this be forgotten easily if we get the result at Wigan and 3 points closer to safety?
This was, by some distance, the least important game of the season. The biggest disappointment is that Orr picked up a knock. The result, quite frankly, is irrelevant tonight in the grand scheme of things and anyone who is really that outraged needs to chill a bit. If you travelled a long distance to be there, honestly, why? It was always going to be a half-paced affair against a team who wanted it far more.
And therein lies the problem. Who now can blame Warnock for throwing the tie (which I'm now thoroughly convinced he did after listening to his post-match comments) if the fans are in on it as well? Really, is this where the game has gotten to? Players and Managers on disgustingly high salaries not bothering to go out and do their best for 90 minutes in the only competition that we've ever won? And worst of all, fans (eg. Watford_R) not giving a toss either? Depressing indeed
Indeed. I'd love nothing more than the reality to be that every team plays their strongest XI in every game whether it be a league game against Chelsea or an LDV 1st round tie against Barnet but you have to be pragmatic about these things. Survival in this league is of the utmost importance and the League Cup is a competition that potentially gives us an extra 4 or 5 midweek games with a squad that is currently not good enough on paper to finish above 18th. I don't think the salary of players or managers is really an issue and is too often used as a stick to beat them with. If we'd won tonight then, yes, wonderful, we're in the third round of the League Cup, a competition which now has all the prestige of a Vauxhall Nova unless you win the thing but coming home from Loftus Road tonight I thought that if we get something at Wigan on the weekend or if Derry, Hill, Bothroyd etc are that little bit fresher for any of the coming 36 league games isn't the cup a sacrifice worth making? I love the FA cup as there is a genuine tradition and point to it, but the League Cup is, whether we like it or not, irrelevant nowadays. I still went because I fancied seeing a game but anyone really going there expecting a blood and thunder old-fashioned cup tie is a little naive. I now can't wait to trek up to Wigan.
Why? We're in the top division for the first time since I was at infant school and I'm going to follow this club home and away until my heart decides to stop beating or, more likely, I run out of money.
I can't believe I'm hearing a QPR manager trash the league cup as a rubbish competition. As a Chelsea fan I used to watch Rangers play when Chelsea were away with my mates who were fans. I saw all the home draws in 1967 and the final so I know what it means to the older Rangers fans. I think Warnock's comments are disgraceful and not what long term Rangers fans wanted to hear.
No, mate no joke, for a small club like Rangers the league cup was a realistic possibility and a distraction from possible relegation.