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  1. 55282

    55282 Well-Known Member

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    After last night's disgraceful scenes fine them and make them play their next three home games behind closed doors.
     
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    Has any one seen the video of the linesman it is quality still making me laugh now

     
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    I want some of what that fat bugger has had <laugh>

    Usain Bolt better watch out.
     
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  4. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    That was like watching a tsunami , wave after wave of the buggers . Anyone would think that was the final ,which probably was for them
     
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    The former Tottenham manager saw his side run out 2-0 winners in the sixth round of the FA Cup on Saturday but the victory was marred by supporters running onto the field

    Aston Villa manager Tim Sherwood defended the pitch invasion that followed his side's 2-0 FA Cup sixth round win over West Brom on Saturday, insisting that the scenes were only scary for the visiting players.

    Fans flooded onto the field after Scott Sinclair sealed their victory with a late strike - with Fabian Delph having scored earlier in the game - and again took to the pitch after the full-time whistle.

    Delph said after the game that he was scared after he was bitten by some over-eager supporters, but Sherwood downplayed the incident, insisting that it was simply passion taking hold.

    "You want to celebrate with the whole crowd," Sherwood told BBC Sport . "I don't think it's scary, it probably is for a West Brom player.

    "Emotions are running very high. It's been a huge week for the football club."

    Sherwood did, however, admit that the club could not condone the actions of the supporters, and praised the work of the stewards on the scene.

    "What can you do? The stewards did their best, I saw them rugby tackle a few guys, but when they are coming on in such numbers it's difficult to stem it," he said.

    "I can't condone the fans entering the field, but I have to be totally honest I can understand their emotions, they've just beaten their local rivals twice in a week and once in the quarter-final of the FA Cup, so the emotions are running very, very high."

    "But like I say, the club wouldn't condone that sort of action, especially if anyone was touched."
    Villa have struggled in the Premier League in 2014-15 - they sit just one place above the relegation zone - and Sherwood dedicated Saturday's victory to the Villa Park faithful, despite their desire to join the players on the pitch.

    "It's huge, a massive for the club and we're delighted," he added. "I spoke to the boys in there and I'd like to dedicate it to the fans. They've stuck with us.

    "It's great as a day out at Wembley is a great day out for everyone and the fans especially.

    "I thought it was boring in the first half and I had a few words during the break and told them to step it up and it worked."

    Both teams finished with 10 men as West Brom's Claudio Yacob and Villa substitute Jack Grealish were given second yellow cards - decisions that Sherwood felt were out of keeping with the contest as a whole.

    "I didn't see a bad tackle in the whole game," he added.

    "It's a shame for Jack Grealish who has his head down in there, but there's plenty more opportunities for him."
     
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    Think we're over reacting here. What I saw was a group of p1ssed up idiot fans, over excited that their team was 'on its way to Wembley'. The victory to them was doubly sweet after the horrendous season they've endured and with it being a derby game equivalent to The Swans beating Cardiff and subsequently going to Wemberley.

    I didn't see any violence, taunting of away fans, no swearing at the camera, no stewards, officials or Police were hurt and most importantly no animals were either.

    The fans, imo, reacted to a whistle they thought had ended the game and they ran on to the pitch to celebrate beating their arch rivals, just as we would have.

    It was the pathetic commentator who reacted poorly imo. He should be reflecting on his poor observations he thoughtlessly shared with millions of viewers. He should come out and personally apologise for his inept, negligent, knee jerk description of the events.

    To equate yesterday's breach of over exuberant fans with the full on pitch invasions of old, with memorys of violence and the ensuing 'battle royal' was despicable and negligent and he should be brought to book for it.

    All I saw was a bunch of over exuberant tw*ts, celebrating their victory over their version of Cardff, by running onto the pitch, which has been done countless times before. They ran on because they thought the game was over and, imo, didn't invade the pitch like a throwback to a 70's brawl which is how the pathetic commentator incorrectly described it. Any one see anything else?
     
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    It is against the law to enter the field of play.
     
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    Against the law is hilarious though innit. Legally have kids and get married at 16 no problem. Run onto a football field - criminal offence. Smoking does way more damage that that 'invasion' yet that's not illegal.
     
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  9. Kwame B

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    I can see both sides of the argument but if I'm completely honest I thought the whole thing added to the atmosphere and made it one of the best FA Cup matches I've seen in decades! I'll take any abuse and criticism coming to me on this one, as I do also see the other side of, it but can't deny that I enjoyed it.
     
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    55282 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting comments gentlemen.So,is it ok as long as it does not affect you or your family?
     
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    fair point, but when I watched I didn't see any violence as such. Sure the fans were wrong in running on the pitch but don't you remember the end of the Forest match Play-Offs semi-final 2nd leg? But if there were people hurt I'm not condoning that, it just seemed to make the game more of an event than most FA Cup Quarter-Finals I've seen in the last few years. But as I said earlier I can see the other side of the argument, but media pundits have started falling over themselves to outdo each other by how much they can condemn the fans, whilst happily defending someone who spits at another player, calling it a "reflex action"!!
     
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    Sherwood really is a plum and hypocrite though;

    "You want to celebrate with the whole crowd," Sherwood told BBC Sport . "I don't think it's scary, it probably is for a West Brom player.

    Clearly he didn't think it was scary >>> his reaction time to bolting it down the tunnel as soon as he seen the fans running in his direction was that of a 60m sprinter - he should enter the Olympics!

    Sherwood did, however, admit that the club could not condone the actions of the supporters, and praised the work of the stewards on the scene.

    "What can you do? The stewards did their best, I saw them rugby tackle a few guys, but when they are coming on in such numbers it's difficult to stem it," he said.


    Watching the scenes - I didn't see one rugby tackle - only a series of stewards standing there watching helplessly. To their defense however, they were overwhelmed, and the safety planners & police are the ones who need to be hung drawn and quartered. Shockingly lacking in safety personnel.

    People really can turn into mindless idiots in this scenario - swinging from the crossbar like chimpanzees.

    If I was on the FA - I would set a precedent, and ban home fans for atleast 3 home games, and slap a big fine on Villa for incompetency in properly policing the situation with adequate stewards and safety officers.
     
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    Running on after the final whistle I don't really have a problem with, it's part of football and, heck, we've had our fair share of pitch invasion moments in the past 10 years - survival against Hull, promotion at Bury (where we invaded another team's pitch!), final game at the Vetch against Wrexham, Forest play-off semi-final! However, I can certainly see the argument that all it takes is one idiot with a pocket knife (or even something more innocent) to do some serious damage.

    Hundreds of fans running onto the pitch before the final whistle has gone is completely unacceptable though in my opinion, and Villa should definitely be punished for allowing that many fans to enter the field of play while the match is still going on.

    What the punishment should be, I don't know. Behind closed doors? But what about the innocent fans who didn't run onto the pitch (i.e. the majority)? What happens to their already paid for season tickets for those games? Are they refunded? I don't know... A substantial fine for Aston Villa would probably do it for me. Then you're punishing the club, not the innocent fans. Not a couple of thousand pound fine like usual - I mean hundreds of thousands, or even a couple of million. It'll teach everyone that it doesn't pay to save money on stewarding and police presence, especially on big derby days.
     
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    We have done it in the past,,,,,,villa have made wembley so i can understand the mood of the fans and it has to be done....the sight of the linesman running for his life was a hoot and worth any fine coming to them just to see that..<laugh>
     
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    don't see the big deal.............tiz about time we seen some passion <ok>
     
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    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    I suggest you pass on the passion to your lot and some back bone
     
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    im sorry but im not sure the city boys are feeling a great deal of passion for the way things are at the moment>>>>>>>>and what do you mean some back bone>>>>>>what do you suggest and where can we buy them from?
     
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    im not sure if you had the same signal as my tv set had, but im pretty sure I saw lots of kids and family enjoying the scenes(and being totally peaceful)..... but there you go if you look at the negatives its ok 2 make a big deal of the 5 percent that seen it has a chance 2 let out some pent up animal aggression.

    let me tell you new fan......the kids that got on that pitch will forever remember that time with found memory........how many other games this year would you say had given them that feeling and an ever lasting memory?.....so why try and take it away just for a few mindless souls hey.
     
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    New fan,Thankyou that's taken a few years off me.

    I take your views on board,but,I cannot condone people running into the pitch whilst the game is still being played.
     
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    i could be forgiven for thinking you just crawled out of some dark cave and didn't understand how passion can some times spill into over excitement but there you go.....I don't suppose you lot have ever done nothing wrong even tho you enjoy your swim away song but that's just hypocrisy playing its hand.

    as for fans on the pitch before the game finished, yes u got that one correct that shouldn't happen, but after the whistle is an old tradition still played out on the odd occasion.....aka Cardiff leeds <laugh>
     
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