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'Vertonghen is a disgrace'

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by PINKIE, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Will the FA take any retrospective punishment for simulation for Vertonghen ? He clearly tried to get Torres sent off by faking an elbow to the head injury. There is talk that Torres 'gouge' will be referred to the FA video panel and he could receive and extra three match ban. Is there a case for Vertonghen's simulation to be referred also ?
     
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  2. Drogs

    Drogs Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't have any qualms about Torres being banned for that scratch (or whatever it was), as long as Vertonghen also receives punishment.
     
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  3. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    The rules on reviewing punishments only apply to Red Card offences (Serious Foul Play and Violent Conduct) so this can't happen. But didn't both players go down holding their head after the final clash. Suggest that both of them were cheating or neither.
     
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  4. ollyday

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    Torres got up a lot quicker
     
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  5. CPofL KTBFFH

    CPofL KTBFFH New Member

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    Apart from the fact that Torres did actually get hit in the head twice then they are exactly the same <doh>

    I love how Vertoghen evens gets the physio to treat him.....what a disgusting cheat.
     
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  6. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    The game would be a lot better if this sort of simulation stopped and I support retrospective punishment for it. My solution is for the ref to be allowed to ask players what happened in any incident and the laws to require them to give an honest answer. Misleading the ref would be punished retrospectively if evidence was beyond reasonable doubt. But Spurs are no worse than anyone else, in fact Vertonghen coould have reacted more to the scratch if his real intent was to get Torres into trouble.

    But what Torres did to Vertonghen should be even more harshly punished - Violent Conduct is a bigger crime than simulation.
     
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    Drogs Well-Known Member

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    So do you think Vertonghen should've been sent off for pushing Torres?
     
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    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    A push isn't violent conduct and never has been.
     
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  9. CPofL KTBFFH

    CPofL KTBFFH New Member

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    Haven't seen a single report that mentions that Vertoghen was actually the one who raised his hands first.
     
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  10. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    they should both get a 10game ban.

    Torres.... fukingirlyman
     
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  11. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    Probably because it's not relevant as 'raising hands' isn't any sort of offence.
     
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  12. Drogs

    Drogs Well-Known Member

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    What? Of course it is, if you push someone in an aggressive manner you are looking for and instigating violence.
     
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  13. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    It would be interesting to watch you refereeing a game, if every push was a sending off!
     
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  14. CPofL KTBFFH

    CPofL KTBFFH New Member

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    Yes it is. You don't even have to touch a player but raise them. Dear god, at least know the rules.
     
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  15. Drogs

    Drogs Well-Known Member

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    He rose from the floor, charged up to him and pushed him. Completely different from pushing in contact sport which is what you appear to be comparing that to.
     
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  16. CPofL KTBFFH

    CPofL KTBFFH New Member

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    Spuds fans now rewriting the rules.
     
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  17. Drogs

    Drogs Well-Known Member

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    Funniest one was totsfan thinking that challenging for an aerial ball is intent to harm and is deserving of a second yellow. Dread to think what his opinions are on shoving somebody!
     
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  18. ChelseaCOE2012

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    Custodial sentence <laugh>
     
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  19. Bucks Blue

    Bucks Blue Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Vertongen was ****ing appalling and everyone can see that apart from Spurs fans. Shocking behaviour.
     
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  20. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    From the Laws "A player is guilty of violent conduct if he uses excessive force or brutality
    against an opponent when not challenging for the ball.
    He is also guilty of violent conduct if he uses excessive force or brutality against
    a team-mate, spectator, match offi cial or any other person"

    Show me the Law that supports your position
     
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