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Match Day Thread versus Millwall

Discussion in 'Plymouth' started by sensiblegreeny, Oct 2, 2023.

  1. sensiblegreeny

    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member
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    Love the sense of humour on behalf of the FA with this fixture being on a Tuesday night. We will have to walk through a blacked out park via dark lanes and fields to get out of the place when there are Lions about..........scary. So, do we actually owe Millwall anything as revenge because I can't frankly think of anything from the past. I did read on pasoti that their fans broke the windows on our team bus way back sometime once upon a time. Does that count? Anyway we can win this as it's at home and plymborn is demanding it be the first in a pair of 3 point games over the next two so it has to happen.




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  2. Plymborn

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    Team coach went back to Plymouth in mid-winter from the old Den in 1967 with broken windows if I remember rightly.....the game that finished Millwalls' 59 game unbeaten at home run.

    I woz there.....not an healthy place to be in those days.......still got the match programme.....5x7...12 pages...cost sixpence

    (2.5 pence into days money).....worth a lot more than that now to programme collectors'.
     
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  3. sensiblegreeny

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    All I'm going to say tonight is we wuz robbed and there is no way that Millwall deserved that score or the points. The Officials were diabolical and the lino on the Lyndhurst side should never be let near a football match again.
     
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  4. notDistantGreen

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    I have never seen a more one-aided 45 minutes than that first half. We absolutely overwhelmed them. But - and it’s a big but - we got nothing for it You just knew deep in some dark corner of your mind that we’d pay for it and so we did. Against Norwich, we were 4-0 up at half time and you wondered how. Against Millwall we weren’t 4-0 up and you wondered why not.

    Harsh words must have been spoken in the away changing room and maybe there were tactical tweaks too and although we were still the better side in the second half, it was not the devastating supremacy of the first and we paid the price.

    I’ll keep on saying it. Three at the back against Norwich, scored 6. Four at the back tonight and didn’t. Whittaker isolated on the wing, trying his best but not being used where he can inflict untold pain and suffering.

    Also, to repeat something else, Mumba and Miller had the beating of them down the left in the first half but that’s no reason to beat them, get to the goal line, take it back, beat them again. And again. And again. Get the ****ing thing into the box, will you? Please?

    Sensible is not being a grumpy bad loser. The referee was diabolical. He let far too much go. I know they’ve been told to let minor fouls go but not when they’ve achieved a turnover and breakaway from it or some other significant advantage. In the end Miller lost it and scythed into one of theirs for a yellow that could have been a red. I know he shouldn’t have done it but good on you lad, I’m with you.

    This is a game we should have won easily and deserved to do so. I know this is a tough league but on occasions we aren’t making the most of significant talent we have.
     
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    A lot of talk how good we were in the first half....unfortunately you don't get given goals by playing good attractive football.....you need to put the ball in the back of the net.....and that's what Millwall did.

    So much talk also of Whittaker not being so effective on the wing compared with a more central roll.....why is Schumacher playing him there ?

    Only 3 pts above the relegation spots.....we need to become more streetwise....if not... this could become a difficult season....we have the players but not the know all at present.
     
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    Just watched the video....that was a case of GBH in the extreme for Millwalls second goal....a case of being pole axed to the ground....did Argyle players protest about it....didn't show up on the video if they did.
     
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    We don’t need to obsess about the table yet. We were vastly superior to Millwall in the first half. Their manager is trying to dress it up but that’s a fact.

    What we need to do is to find the way to get the best from the very good players we have. They were outstanding to a man in the first 45. I’d point particularly at unsung hero Pleggy. Sound at the back but boy can he play a bit when needed.

    What we need to do is to find the way to get the best results from them.

    <<RANT ON>>

    I’d say the biggest problem last night was not a subdued Whittaker but the failure to capitalise on lots of good opportunities down the left. Mumba and Miller played well and we got down that side at will but didn’t produce enough from it. We need to do more with it when we get there. In short, get the ****ing ball into the ****ing box. Don’t take the extra touch, don’t elaborate unnecessarily. Run at them in the box: they can’t touch you then. We don’t have a big striker so whip it in low. There’s no point in breaking through at lightning speed and then waiting for the defence to catch up. We had enough possession down that side for 5 goals.

    <<RANT OFF>>
     
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    Dreadful decision from the referee but then, that was his standard throughout. Even from distance, I thought it was a bad foul and the crowd down there who were looking straight at it were incensed. I thought there was going to be be trouble due to the crowd coming onto the pitch such was the ferocity of it. Having watched it back, it's dreadful: he leads with his arm and connects with the face or throat.
     
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    Have the club not protested about the incident....just imagine if that had been the only goal....and it had won the match....even after the ball had gone in the net...no one went over to the player.
     
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  10. sensiblegreeny

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    If that had been the only goal they would still have taken the 3 points because that's the rules and there would be no replay. Like Liverpool won't get a replay for the VAR decision. The thing that incenses most of all is that is was not just a foul but a completely obvious one to anyone who was looking at it real time or otherwise. There wasn't any debate it was that blatant. Lets face it we got mugged last night and the Cops stood by and let it happen. The Cops being the Officials there to see fair play.

    Not only was I pee'd off at the Refereeing but after the game had to endure a cross country hike in the pitch dark to get out of the Park. Having fenced off a whole load of the Barn Park entrance to the park for works on the "pond" at the bottom they have created a nightmare for punters to get out of the park that way. It's not as if I can see any work actually being done there either as it never seems to look any different each time there is a home match. It should not be beyond the wit of the people working there to create a passage through the middle on the existing path without it interfering with their work. I can see somebody having a fall there before long when the weather gets poor and I'm keeping fingers crossed it isn't me.
     
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