I've just read an article on the Beeb football site about Ref decisions this season. They looked at a shed load of penalties, reds and incidents that had a baring on the game. They decided that 85% of decisions were correct. That actually meant that out of the ones reviewed they are considered to have got 99 wrong. Saturdays Ref is apparently from the Prem........again. He has issued 45 yellows and 2 reds in 9 games. Any bets before we even kick off that he notes Rooney in the dugout and gets star struck as others have this season so far. Every time we have had a supposed prem official on our pitch we have been seen off royally. I am worried before we even start now. As for the game itself I don't think losing (that man) is going to make any difference to us. Thedplayers will respond and I think we not only can win this but indeed will. Come on lads show (that man) what he's is going to be missing. COYG
Three goals only gets us a draw with our defence....I think we we're lucky against 10 men. The next manager needs to have a defensive coach to bring with him.....we certainly need one.....that's twice now we've scored three at home and only got a point.
Just watched the video....looked like poor goalkeeping for us....I'm sure that Cooper wouldn't have let three in.
I really don't know where to start with this game. I've had a couple of sherberts so hopefully this will make at least some sense. It was 50/50 up to the first goal. Our defeding was woeful. Actually it was worse than that it was non existing. We must have had a couple of chances to clear a ball but didn't. Who scored? Stansfield of course who else. His celebration was so far over the top it deserved the booking he got. He basically insighted the crowd and they in turn threw a whole load of stuff at him. They shouldn't and I wouldn't but he did ask for it. I don't blame him for disliking Argyle fans given the abuse given regarding his deceased dad but that was irresponsible. To be fair we always looked like we would ship another goal rather than score one even if we did have a few near misses. One of theirs gor stretchered off. It looked awful but it was their player on their player so no blame involved Argyle wise. He got a round of applause from both ends of the ground when taken out towards the Ambulance. Just when it looked like nothing was going to happen for us we scored in extra time. So, going in down 2 - 1 was not as bad as it could have been. Round two and one of theirs gets a straight red for presumably an over the top challenge. I didn't see much of it so can't really comment on how deserved it was. Cue a lot of laying down and being hurt from Birmingham. If they had just stood up and carried on who knows what might have happened but they didn't. Then we decided to give them a breakaway and if that wasn't bad enough suddenly it was 3 - 1 and we were struggling. The Ref gave Rooney a hint ref stansfield might just get a red if he carried on and he went off. I'm sort of lost on which order all this came in as I wasn't making notes. We got one back with a goal from Waine. Now, there is some doubt who actually got the ball over the line. It was either him or an OG. The beed gave it to Waine so lets go with that. Plenty of time to go but now the real time wasting started. It didn't work and once more Whittaker took receipt of the ball, moved it forward a few yards and struck a beauty ibto the bottom corner. So 3 - 3 and that's how it stayed. Got to say this was probably a point gained rather than 2 lost. I do not like Birmingham. They are a bit of a dirty side with a load of play acting and niggly fouls. Not afraid to take a player out if neccesary. The Ref for this in my opinion almost lost control but there was a lot going on. The woman lino on our side of the ground was on this occasion crap. Their first goal was offside by a minimum of a yard and a half in the build up. She was nowhere to be seen when not flagging. She missed a few others as well. So, dirty opposition and a couple of naff officials could have led to this result being anything. There is so much that could be talkied about with this.
You could describe this game as eventful and thrilling. I’d describe it as eventful and gruelling. I can’t take much more of this. Notably, we started in the same shape and with the same personnel as Schumacher left us with. That I suppose was the only real option. It left us with the same problems though, particularly in what we’ve getting from Whittaker and Mumba. Don’t get me wrong, both tried their hardest and had good moments but good moments are not enough from two excellent players. We need find a way to allow them to deliver more of their undoubted potential.. In his cups or not, Sensible has given a good gist of it. They pressed and we surrendered the lead amongst a welter of misplaced passes and mistakes. With just Houghton in the pivot role, we found it hard to play out. The first goal does as they say change things: the whole momentum of the match in fact. We conceded it from the second of two corners which we didn’t defend well. The problem is that the first corner came from a move that was as Sensible says, well offside. Clearly offside. From then we were of course on the back foot I won’t criticise individual players. They al ran their proverbial socks off and the crowd stuck with them and cheered them off at the end for their efforts. The sooner we get a new manager in to take a fresh look at the way we set the team out and how we manage games the better though.
I just looked at the BBC report. Stansfield had a “Once A Red, Always A Red” tee shirt on under his jersey. No wonder he nearly caused a riot.
This is where I devide myself if that's possible. Players get a shed load of abuse most of which is way over the top. Stansfield has been given more than his fair share from the brainless section of the green army directed mainly at his deceased father. That is so far out of order that it defies further comment. To react is perhaps a bit understandable but he knows as a professional player that he both shouldn't and can't get away with reacting. It was inevitable that he was at the least going to get booked for going right up to the Devonport end and displaying his message. He may well get more punishment depending on the FA. Personally I think he shouldn't despite what could have occured. However, I can't see why Argyle fans should be so precious about it all. They have asked for it as much as he asked for his booking. I think, although not sure, that the Ref had a word with Rooney just before Stansfield got subbed. Think he got told that if he didn't then another red card was probably on it's way. Rooney did make the substitution to his credit. It's done in my opinion so let it be.
I agree. If such things were said about his father, then he has every right to bear a grudge. What he did was dangerous though. He’s a good player and he should let his feet do the talking. To be fair, although unwise, “Once A Red, Always A Red” isn’t exactly the most explosive of statements is it? It didn’t justify throwing objects onto the pitch. it’s hard to believe that the same fans who stood to give their injured player an ovation as he was stretchered off could say such things or throw objects but I suppose there are rotten apples at every club and a greater number of idiots that will follow them. That is certainly the case at Argyle. I haven’t used Twitter since the Musk takeover but you’d certainly see a darker side of Argyle fans there. No doubt the secure platforms like Telegram are worse still.
Okay there is no need to abuse Stansfield's dead father....that would upset anyone....so that was out of order. But his response to the green army was premeditated....he had acquired a T-shirt with a comment that he knew would upset Argyle fans...if hopefully he had the chance to display it....and of course our sieve like defence didn't let him down. So he was out of order and the Ref rightfully booked him.
Of course it was premeditated but only if he scored of course. Having said that he always does against us. Also that he was likely to have to listen to more morons throwing abuse at him and possibly still about his dad. So he was prepared. He knew it would lead to a booking so he got what he deserved and set out for. I am not about to have a go at him for standing up for his family and the tragedy of a young parents death. It's done hopefully and let him and us move on. Not the finest hour for either side was it.
