Off Topic UK / EU Future

Toy boy Macron has indicated he will use leverage for a continued right for French fishing boats to access our waters as part of a new trade deal.

If we seriously take them on the French will eventually surrender, it is what they do historically.

 

You spoke about 'No Deal'. Make your mind up.

 

Hopefully there will be no deal based on the present lousy one. This will give up time to negotiate a sensible deal later on, keeping the frogs out of our fishing waters.

 

What are you on about? How is that relevant and how will it solve the border issue in the meantime? You do realise that 'No Deal' will cancel out any transition period. Also, negotiations are with the EU, not individual countries.

After 2 years you're still clueless on this subject, you're worse than your idol David Davis and he was in charge of this whole ****show

 

Are you Mr Confused ?

 

Nope, but you're definitely Mr Clueless.

 

How's that trade deal looking that Trump was going to hand us as soon as we leave?

Why hasn't the EU fallen apart yet as you predicted repeatedly before, during and after the referendum?

 

The poor love seems to have some anger issues again - maybe he should consider some anger managment therapy?

 

If and when we have a proper Brexit a trade deal with the US would be highly probable. As Trump has correctly identified May's deal does constitute a proper Brexit. The EU is falling apart regardless of Brexit. Toy boy Macron and Merkel are vying to be the most unpopular leaders in the EU, expect more challenges to the eurocrats domination.

 

Trump, going by his past record, is interested in off loading agricultural products wherever he can. The legal part of the agreement states that the UK will stick with the EU rules which bar some of the US products being sold in Europe. This is what worries Trump, alongside the fact that he wants to put America first, and once the UK is a small entity in the world markets, he will be able to dictate the terms of any deal. The longer that the UK is aligned with the EU on environmental matters, the more he knows that he cannot dump products on the UK market.

 

Macron and Merkel aren't the EU, they're leaders of countries in the EU. Their popularity is completely irrelevant. You Brexiters make me laugh, you switch between hating the EU and every leader they have as it suits. The EU is fine and will continue to exist long after any of us, especially the wrinkly xenophobic Brexit lot.

No one claimed we would leave the Customs Union, all the mouthy Leave advocates all said we would still be part of it and negotiate deals with the rest of the world (which was claimed as impossible back then but labelled 'Project Fear'). 'No Deal' will cripple this country, why would you want that just to have a trade deal with the US? Also, I don't think you even know what a trade deal actually involves.

 

Curious scenes at home affairs committee as Sajid Javid says no deal means end of freedom of movement in March 2019, but EU nationals would be able to arrive in same way, and employers would not have to check their status. So what's changed? Javid also tells the committee that the "tens of thousands" figure was "an aspiration" rather than necessarily "a target". That sounds as though the target is no longer a target, but something hopeful that might come about.

 

Perhaps the stress anger management is not such a bad idea.

 

As usual, when proved wrong, you divert the conversation. Normally you involve France, you've probably run out of stuff to attack the French on.

 

No, I've got plenty on our backward neighbours. France continues to be a prime example of why the Brits have rejected the EU.

 

Seriously though, it is good to have such a dysfunctional neighbour as France to highlight even with Brexit things could be much worse.

 

Why has the government gone back on a unanimous resolution passed by the Commons to produce the legal advice it received? Just what are they trying to cover up now?

 

The British ex-pats lost their case before the EU's General Court to invalidate Brexit because of long term ex-pats exclusion to be able to vote.

The UK government has said it will support a private member's bill in future to do away with the 15-year restriction on ex-pats votes. Interestingly The Labour Party has so far refused to back the bill on the grounds it would create too much administration.

 

Give it time and he'll start encouraging Brexiteers to commit suicide. That's what he usually does, anyway.

 

'Brexit: centuries of effort by the United Kingdom lie in ruins.

The power of the United Kingdom was founded upon two principles - maintaining the Union and dividing the continent. But today they have merely succeeded in achieving the opposite'

Figaro Magazine