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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Jul 3, 2025 at 8:06 PM.

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What’s gonna happen

  1. Temporary blip

  2. Complete ****ing collapse

  3. It’ll all be ok

  4. Relegation

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  1. AcunsBurnerAccount™

    AcunsBurnerAccount™ Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that there is no quick fix to this.

    The club will appeal, we don’t know when that appeal will be heard, or when the outcome will be released.

    In the meantime any transfer target we had involving a fee will likely make alternate plans with other clubs.

    So even if we get the equivalent of Oxfords suspended sentence, we’ll have the same late rush of signings as last season and the excuse that the latecomers are missing a preseason.

    Im really ****ed off with Acun because this is a serious own goal that could have been avoided.

    I still believe his heart is in the right place and is investing as much as he can to try and bring success.

    But he needs someone around him to take over responsibility to make sure the club are compliant with all the rules and regulations of owning a football club. I feel he tries to wheel and deal in the same way that he does with his own media business and if he continues we will just have more of this.

    This situation is recoverable - if Acun still has access to the necessary funds. Only Acun and his accountant will know the real truth on that.
     
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  2. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    GFAW
     
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  3. Brucebones

    Brucebones Well-Known Member

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    No, it’s just what Acun says, somewhere there’s something that’s true, but no one knows anything, it’s all clear as mud!
    Don’t waste your time!
     
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  4. Drew

    Drew Well-Known Member

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    Out of order this Jim
     
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  5. TIGERSCAVE

    TIGERSCAVE Well-Known Member

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    I Can clearly remember Kessler saying they were running everything through the EFL to ensure they were ok before he did a runner.
     
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  6. pcworks

    pcworks Well-Known Member

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    Martin Samuels in the The Times has published an article about 'How to stop rogue football club owners'

    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/article/football-club-owners-martin-samuel-0rplt0w9q

    How to stop rogue football club owners: take their keys

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    We spend so much time finding ways to punish investment and ambition in football, yet the real menace goes ignored. Why is it so hard to target the actual culprits?
    Martin Samuel

    Saturday July 05 2025, 6.00pm BST, The Sunday Times
    Just take the club off them. Dejphon Chansiri at Sheffield Wednesday, Acun Ilicali at Hull City. When you cannot pay the players, when you cannot cover your transfer commitments, that should be an end to it. We spend so much time, in football, finding ways to punish investment and ambition, yet the real menace goes ignored.
    Once an owner cannot pay the staff, or another club its money owed, the league should have the power to seize the asset and call in administrators. Not to shut the club down, because that punishes the wrong people — the fans, the employees — but to run it in such a way that commitments are met.
    To ensure there is money to cover wages; to guarantee all responsibilities to the industry. If the league does not have the will to do this, then a government regulator should. If we are going to have one, at least give it teeth to address a real problem. Rogue owners are football’s blight. Not ambition.
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    Sheffield Wednesday supporters held protests against owner Chansiri last season
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    As it is, supporters at two clubs with a history dating back a combined 278 years find themselves in the same position as fans of Reading until recently, not knowing if they will have a team to follow at all next season. Sheffield Wednesday players are handing in their notice after wages, again, were not paid. Hull have been banned from signing players across three transfer windows after failing to pay Aston Villa more than £1million from the loan deal for Louie Barry.
    Taking over the club may seem a harsh reaction for one misdemeanour, but defaulting on expected payments is not a small offence. Villa have financial pressures of their own. Not receiving the money expected for Barry could have an impact on their finances, too. And while £1million does not appear a significant shortfall at a Premier League club, if Hull defaulted on a player from League Two, say, it could be catastrophic. That is why football debts are prioritised when clubs go into conventional administration. It is to maintain this very delicate economic system.
    Football has its priorities wrong. Leicester City are being pursued to the ends of the earth, but there is no question the club cannot meet its wage bill or pay its transfer debts. What is happening at Wednesday and Hull contains considerably more jeopardy.
    It was interesting that when Uefa punished Chelsea and Aston Villa on Friday for breaking financial rules, the sanctions were largely financial and intended to deter, not destroy. Too much of what English football sets out to do puts clubs on the brink — as happened with Everton — yet truly dangerous stewardship is met with scant limitation from those on high. As fans despaired, how long was Dai Yongge allowed to steer Reading towards an iceberg before a deal to sell the club was done? It should not have been his club to sell. Once he began missing wage payments Reading should have been removed from his control and run by a third party, appointed by the EFL. They should then have overseen Reading’s transfer into new ownership, paying Yongge only after all other debts had been settled.
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    Chelsea, who won the Conference League last season, were fined £27million by Uefa for breaching its financial rules
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    It would seem the new regulator intends to operate a licence system, but fans don’t want to lose their club. What if a regulator had revoked Reading’s licence, what good would that have done? The campaigners would have been left with no club to support, the schedules and standings of League One would have been spoiled. And for what? The protesters did not want Reading shut, they wanted Yongge out. It’s the same at Sheffield Wednesday, where fans have been calling on Chansiri to sell up and go all season.
    A points deduction seems sure to follow, but again that seems to hit innocent parties: coaches, players and the fans once more, who never asked for their club to be made less competitive, or ruined. Why is it so hard to target the actual culprits? Take the keys, and it’s done.
     
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  7. Kalman II

    Kalman II Well-Known Member

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    I agree in spirit but it’s practically impossible for the state or any governing body to seize a football club and its assets from the owner. FIFA has rules against state interference in football. The British government had the power to freeze, but not seize, Abramovich’s assets (including Chelsea) in response to sanctions against Russia.

    A 50+1 rule like in Germany is probably the best we can hope for.
     
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  8. Tony Angelino

    Tony Angelino Well-Known Member

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    Did the sponsorship with safiport just come to its end or was it ended?
     
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  9. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    It refers to multiple creditors.

    Edit: OK caught up, that's a different situation. So the story about local suppliers was made up?
     
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  10. augustatiger

    augustatiger Well-Known Member

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    It was a one season deal
     
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  11. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    Bosnian
     
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  12. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    Only skim read it but didn't see any mention of Man City.
     
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  13. Tony Angelino

    Tony Angelino Well-Known Member

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    Just catching up
    Not sure if I’ve missed it before but who is Jim, other than Jim the tiger

    Kal your not really deesy on twitter are you ?
     
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  14. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    Think you need a pretty big head to think people know, or care, who you are off this board eh
     
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  15. Tony Angelino

    Tony Angelino Well-Known Member

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    I actually don’t mind either of the two mentioned. Some posters on here, I’m surprised they get through doorways
     
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  16. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    I don't mind them in general I was agreeing with your point Tony.
     
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  17. The B&S Fanclub

    The B&S Fanclub Well-Known Member

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    Question is: Can I change my 'What's going to happen' prediction. I fear I pressed the wrong choice!!! Silly me....
    It's Hull City, I should have known.
     
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  18. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    The writer complains about the real menace but it wasn’t even mentioned in this article.

    And that is the ridiculously outrageous costs for any half decent player that only premier league clubs can afford.

    The sooner the top few **** off to their European super league the better IMO.
     
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  19. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely outrageous article from know nowt fat Samuels.
    Lazy, misleading, sensationalist, ....
    No mention whatsoever about the actual circumstances & mitigations behind the situation. No mention of the appeal. No mention of the expectation of reduction or oveturn. There's been no suggestion that players won't get paid nor that we might not have a team to follow this coming season. No mention of how much he's put into the club from his own pocket. No mention of the positives he's brought for the fans. No mention that the debt is only to himself. Etc etc.
    How the fcuk can he chuck our owner in with Wednesday's owner, or mention him in the same breath as Yongge at Reading. just for technically missing a loan payment to a club we reportedly had an agreement with about it and who owes us money back.
    As Amin says, no mention of Man City (odd that eh).
    I hope he's made to issue a public apology and withdraw his comments, or better still, that he's sued for defamation.
    It's absolutely disgraceful from him.
     
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  20. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    Samuels used to be good but recently has basically just become a mouth piece for pl elite.
     
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