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Discussion in 'Celtic' started by anportmorbhoy, May 16, 2012.

  1. Frank The Tank

    Frank The Tank Active Member

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    Anport - a lot of us were fooled by Whyte, I'm annoyed at trusting the ****, I should know better but was probably to eager to back anyone but Murray. The BBC are still fuds though and Phil really is a very ill mentalist.

    I have said in a previous post what I think would be a sensible punishment which is an embargo until football debts are settled.

    Rebel - see above ya rancid hoor.
     
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  2. RebelBhoy

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    Yes, I read that, but given that you contradicted yourself I thought I'd ask you to spell it out.

    You are of course not stupid enough to think that Rangers will settle their footballing debts. Therefore you are suggesting that Rangers receive no punishment at all. That is stupid.
     
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  3. eric cartman

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    But what about ticketus and HMRC are they not entitled to be paid as well?

    If it was all debts then i could agree but i don't see what makes football debt rank higher than others.
     
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  4. Frank The Tank

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    The SFA are a footballing authority, they are not a financial regulator.

    Footballing debts should be a higher priority as it keeps the cash flow of the other clubs going.

    If the SFA ordered us to pay back all debts then they'd have to do the same for all clubs, which is impossible since business are run using debt facilities.

    Green has stated he would settle football debts in full for the sake of integrity but we'll see if he can back up that claim. All talk right now.
     
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  5. anportmorbhoy

    anportmorbhoy Well-Known Member

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    I can appreciate where you are coming from, in that you feel spending on the team will result in more fans =more money to pay your debts. But a big part of your debt is non payment of tax. You used money last summer to buy players rather than pay your debts. Therefore an embargo is fair. You should have had a self employed embargo last summer and might not be in this mess (well maybe not be as badly in)
     
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  6. RebelBhoy

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    Given that in Scotland no preference can be given to football creditors and that the Administrators legal obligation is to ALL of the creditors your proposed punishment for Rangers involves the administrators breaking the law.

    Come back with something better
     
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  7. eric cartman

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    and what about ticketus? they provide cash flow to clubs who makes the champions league etc.

    In my opinion taxes rank first otherwise our society would fail and anarchy would ensue.

    UEFA FFP insist clubs pay their taxes of which rangers haven't paid a single penny. The SFA have also adopted those rules so they agree with me that clubs have a duty to pay there way like the rest of society.
     
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  8. Frank The Tank

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    No it doesn't <laugh>

    SFA regs has nothing to do with the administration process.

    You've made a disaster of that post, I've just phoned you a taxi <ok>
     
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  9. Frank The Tank

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    Wasn't our net spend positive or at least very low last summer? I have a feeling the Bougherra money may have covered most of it. We were offering shambolic bids for players

    Wouldn't have made a difference, Whyte had no intention of paying tax. He wanted to rince cash out the club and I think he went down this route after we made a **** of Europe. He should be jailed IMO.
     
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  10. RebelBhoy

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    <laugh>

    You truly are a simpleton.

    It may have escaped your attention but Rangers are in administration.
     
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  11. Frank The Tank

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    What stadium do they play at?
     
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  12. RebelBhoy

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    Pwease Pwease SFA, defer our transfer embargo until we have paid off our fitba creditors.

    SFA: when is that gonna be?

    Uhm That Gween man said he pay em aff n'at ferra sake ae integgritty.

    SFA: but he doesn;t own the club. You are in administration.

    Aye.....but he's buying us.

    SFA: When?

    When we can get a CVA.

    SFA: You aren't going to get a CVA.

    Aye wa wull.

    SFA: Ok, assuming in this fantasy land that you get a CVA, then this Green guy is going to buy the club

    Aye....assrite

    SFA: and then he is going to pay off the creditors a pence in the pound deal.

    uh huh.

    SFA and then pay off the football creditors with the full amount.

    Aye.

    SFA: So in this fantasy land where a CVA can be agreed, all the rest of the creditors are going to be happy that the new owners then pay out some other creditors more money.

    Um....aye

    SFA: and then we can punish you for cheating?

    aye.......naw, wait till we have bought a load ae players furst.

    SFA. So we wait till you agree a CVA, get a new owner, pay off all your creditors some money and then pay off the football creditors some more money, then buy some more players and then punish you......you know what Billy, that sounds entirely reasonable.


    Francis, you are an idiot.
     
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  13. eric cartman

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    Ibrox
     
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  14. anportmorbhoy

    anportmorbhoy Well-Known Member

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    Would have meant reduced debts, lower running costs and less tax to go unpaid, might have kept the taxman off your back.

    Point is you are in massive debt. Whytes a **** but 90% of your debt is historic. Even the ticketus debt is old as it went to pay the lloyds debt, had it not you'd still owe it. The weight of your debts meant you didnt have money to pay bills. You deliberately didnt pay taxman, other clubs and companies. You'll get away with paying penny's in the pound for these debts, yet expect to be allowed to carry on as if it never happened? You have to either pay all the debts in full or take a punishment. If its not restrictive its not a punishment is it?
     
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  15. RebelBhoy

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    Judge: You have been found guilty of murder. I sentence you to death by hanging.

    William: Aw yerronner, I huv a holiday booked tae Lanzarotty

    Judge: Ok, no hurry, we can do it when you get back.
     
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  16. eric cartman

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    So football clubs shouldn't pay any taxes?
     
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  17. Super hooper

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    Frank the sex pest, from following the logic of your posts I can understand how you have to pester people to get what you feel you need.
    First thing doesn't matter if Whyte was a cheat, a con man or a villain, Rangers had a board of directors, a team of well paid office employees,
    including Accountants and Secretaries who knew the difference between right and wrong, they had a responsibility to see that Rangers did the
    right thing. Rangers punishment so far is only the tip of the iceberg, as the outcomes and punishments of the more serious cases are yet to be
    delivered. I would have thought that in the interest of there been some semblance of decency and knowledge of the need to stay within the
    rules and laws, some Rangers fans like your self should be accepting the punishment and calling for all the verdicts to be given, so that we could all know the real severity of the punishment.
    For example Green wanted to raise season ticket prices but agreed to keep them as they were, would that be fair if Rangers were in SFA Div 3
     
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