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To Clarify a Point

Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by yorkiegit, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. yorkiegit

    yorkiegit Active Member

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    I posted a thread a few days ago, and i was surprised by a few comments, but not by a few others,
    but i feel i need to clarify the point i was trying to raise.

    Where is it written that the optimun time to sack a manager is either just before the window or at the start of one?
    i just dont buy into that.

    99.9% of managers that are sacked, is because their team are under performing (the other .1% is because of a fall out between manager and owner)
    The fact their team was under performing is not necessarily the players fault.

    If a new manager is appointed before a window they are almost obliged to bring in an x amount of new players, whether to appease the fans or to demonstrate their managers nous i`m not too sure.



    My point was that if a new manager is appointed just after the window, then he is pretty much stuck with what he`s got until the next window opens, that would give him more time to try different coaching/tactical methods
    with a possible new coaching staff. If,when the next window opens he needs a few more players, then so be it, but at least he would have given himself and more importantly his current players the time to make a more balanced and informed decision, rather than the mad scramble we see every window.

    Hope i have made my point a tad clearer.

    For the record,yes i am a fully paid up member of the Jewel out brigade
    Would i like to see ME bust a gut to get Harry? damm right.
     
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  2. tractor bhoy

    tractor bhoy Well-Known Member

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    So basically what you are saying is in fact what actually happens at the moment. A manager will be sacked at any time during the season as a result of the owner/ chairmen/ ceo running out of patience with him.
     
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  3. yorkiegit

    yorkiegit Active Member

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    It was really in reply to someone saying i was mad to even suggest sacking a manager 4 days after the window closed
     
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  4. tractor bhoy

    tractor bhoy Well-Known Member

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    I would say the mad comment would depend on what you are basing the decision on
     
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  5. stephenhawkingsfootballboots

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    When would be the optimum time to have Clegg sacked? AFAIC he could be booted out at any point in the season without detriment to the club at all!

    Winner.
     
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  6. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    I got it yorkiegit.

    For all our transfer exploits we have let far more talented players leave than we've brought in. If anyone had taken a moment to work with the players they already had and get the most out of them we wouldn't have wasted all that cash on tosh and perpetually had underperforming players.
     
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  7. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Yorkiegit are you Yorkie in disguise!

    I'm all confused.com!
     
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  8. King_of_Portman_Rd

    King_of_Portman_Rd Well-Known Member
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    Having read the original thread, I think it's ridiculous to think Harry would: a) come here (we are not that wealthy) and b) how he would make a blind bit of difference to what is an average championship team.
    We can all agree he is a world class manager but has gained his success from buying in players like it's going out of fashion and we don't have such deep pockets as when ME took over all those years ago
     
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  9. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    I would only welcome 'Arry if he came with Joe Jordan and Kevin Bond and that wouldn't be cheap. Harry hasn't got a clue when it comes to tactics and training, he leaves all that to Jordan, Bond and Clive Allen. The only thing 'Arry is good at is man management and spotting great potential in young players. If 'Arry did come here we would have to fork out for the backroom staff as well. <ok>
     
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  10. KIO

    KIO Well-Known Member

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    Tell me you're not being serious, you would get rid of the Perv and then welcome that cockney villain to the Portaloo ?
    Be careful what you wish for my friend, IMO the best fit for you guys would be Carl Robinson from MK Wombles I reckon that guy is going to go far. As for Arry, he's a money manager and I doubt ME would be prepared to splash anymore serious cash unless you reach the EPL <ok>
     
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  11. King_of_Portman_Rd

    King_of_Portman_Rd Well-Known Member
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    I'm gutted Sean O'Driscoll has gone to Forrest, I wanted him instead of Jewell when we were looking for a replacement for Keane, apparently we spoke to him but he wasn't sure on the move so we went for Jewell. I think if we do get rid of Jewell we need to bring in a young manager and Robinson from MK would fit that bill perfectly (But I imagine he'll be managing somewhere else by this time next year and I won't be Ipswich)
     
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  12. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Tut Tut KIO....!

    I'm sure his lawyers and a jury will disagree with you! <ok>
     
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    As King of PR said, the accusations of lunacy were mainly around the notion that 'arry would come here.
     
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  14. KIO

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    I'm sure they would, then again I haven't got a pot to piss in and Arry has soo much dosh his lawyers can turn black into white
     
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  15. wellyblue

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    I certainly wouldn't agree with that!

    To be "world class", a manager must surely have won some League Titles, some European silverware, at least one Champions League Title (more would be better...)

    That's not saying he's not a very good manager, and certainly better than we've got at the moment, but "world class"?

    Never!

    <ok>
     
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