Vim, you talk of a "massive overreaction", but that post is a bit of an "general exaggeration". There have been times where idiots have made some awful comments, through people being "hot headed" or commenting when in "the heat of the moment". - perhaps after a bad defeat or a bad ref. - I'd agree, overreaction. Currently. the points being made by many users are not really an overreaction, when things are summed up. yes, it's all come at once, but it's been building up for sometime. The discussion topics are a build up of many factors that have come together, leaving us asking so many questions right now because our season has imploded, and we saw it coming. The general points being made are: 1)Harry and England 2)Harry needing to leave, because England has turned his head 3)Lack of rotation and/or tactics 4)Players going out on loan who should never have been allowed to go 5)shifting of the dead wood, to allow for other players coming in. 6)Signings - where have they been for 18 months? None of that is news to anyone, but unfortunately right now, the sh*t has hit the fan and the supporters have every right to question those subjects. we're all pretty reasonable people on here who tend to agree to some extent. why are the club so far away from answering our questions that have been lingering around for months and months? You're right, there have been some good points on here, but a season is 38 games + cup competitions, not an excellent first 2/3rds. The points above (most) are the reasons for our season only being 2/3rds long, IMO.
Relatively few? The relatively few you speak of actually amounts to more than 25% of a premier league season. That "few" is more games than it took our chairman (and some fans) to decide that Jol wasn't good enough. Imagine that the table linked earlier in the thread was at the beginning of the season. Do you seriously think Harry (or Kenny) would still be in a job? Also, its not as if these were dead rubber games at the end of the season, these were very, VERY, important games for us. I was all for Rodgers a couple of months ago as i thought he would slot right in without changing too much of what was a pretty good formula. However, since then it is clear more of a task-master is required. Moyes is the man for me, but is he holding out for something bigger? Surely he'll be on Utd's radar when Fergie retires.
Can you please cut out the personal digs on our manager, we are all p'd off with the end of our season, but Redknapp has been a good manager for us, and this season we have hit heights that many of us have never seen before, so please cut out the personal jibes. Unless you are really a gooner of course?
I think modric can be replaced but not bale! I would take 40+ for him if it put back into the team And I am also thinking moyes is the manager for us!
I got into this in another thread, but will repeat it here - our first team should, realistically, have a first choice player, an understudy, and a youngster coming through the ranks for each position. However, that isn't what we have: Goalkeeper: Friedel, Cudicini, N/A Right back: Walker, Corluka, Smith/Byrne Centre back: Kaboul, Dawson, Caulker* Centre back: King, Gallas/Nelsen, N/A Left back: Assou-Ekotto, Rose, Naughton* Right wing: Lennon, Kranjcar/Dos Santos/Bentley*, Townsend Defensive midfield: Parker, Sandro, Luongo Playmaker: Modric, Huddlestone, Carroll* Left wing: Bale, Pienaar*, Falque* Second striker: Van Der Vaart, N/A, Kane* Centre forward: Adebayor, Saha/Defoe, N/A (* denotes we loaned them out) Too many loaned out, too many right wingers, not enough cover in some key positions. True, I did leave out academy players (like Coulibaly) but there's a lot of gaps in there, which considering Friedel, Cudicini, King, Gallas and Nelsen are coming to the end of their careers, plus there's some real dead wood in Bentley and Jenas, that needs sorting in the summer both in terms of lowering the age in key areas, as well as having valid replacements.
The point of this post wasnt to complain.... I mentiin Harry going cos ... Well he will. I mention modric and bale cos the media circus has already started. I mentioned fringe players cos they aint first teamers...and I mentioned gallas and king cos of the speculation that they will retire. I dont think I have overeacted at all...tbh no one gave us a hope if top 4 until November ...
i totally agree with this....we can be upset at the manager but dont attack the man...we have shared alot of good moments with him with our team......i agree with most of the poster's on this thread apart from vimhawk
Ok chaps, I hold my hands up and apologise for the unwarranted personal jibes at the gaffer. I guess I was incensed with recent results and his apparent lack of loyalty to the club and simply got childish about it. Humble pie eaten in bucket loads!
totsfan, Original Spurcat, Dona_mara, HarrysDisciple Cheers fellas. Psychotic tendencies? Possibly. Fed up with 20+ years of mediocrity. Definitely.
I knew I forgot someone! Blame it on trying to figure out which role Jenas plays in, other than Drain On Our Resources...
Very true...I was not that shocked that our season went pear shaped...I am old enough to remember many of our unique successes in turning possible triumphs to humiliation...I never celebrate or brag about anything until the fat lady has sung herself horse...and even then I expect us to suffer later for daring not to fail this time!
