Here is the extent to which these sneaky bastards will go to try and fiddle the figures its an old tory trick, i hope the people on this island see them for what they and kick them out in 2015. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-23353623 Cheers Mabon
And do you really believe that Labour are any better? Political parties are all scum and Labour is as bad as any of them.
Ivor shame on you. These tory *******s have launched a disgraceful dogmatic crusade against the poor and underprivileged people in this country. Not even Thatcher sunk as low as this lot. They are out to crucify the people who can't fight back. They are loathsome lowlife and I hope they get kicked out in 2015. They are consciously setting out to divide this country. Its almost fascist. How on earth can this country tolerate such a hateful self serving bunch of evildoers?
they are digging a huge hole for themselves and they will get their comeuppance in the not to distant future.....they would love to privatize the NHS if they could. they are doing it bit by bit now....the people of this country are beginning to wake up to their plan to privatize absolutely everything worth money that they are shareholders in.....Be prepared to pay a minimum of a £1 for to send a letter very soon ....
I will not enter any political or religious debates, campioni, for the usual reasons. Suffice to say that I was brought up by a working class family in a tough part of Swansea. My family, each and every one of them, were staunch Labour, Gaitskill Labour, and there is a world of difference between that and the self-serving Labour filth that has infested Parliament ever since. My father was in fact highly regarded by the Labour party, worked ceaselessly on a local basis for the community and, for various reasons, mainly family, refused to accept repeated nominations to stand for Swansea East as their MP. A job for life. At a young age, I went out into the world, saw things from different perspectives and started to formulate my own opinions. I won't share them here because they are personal but one thing became clear to me - the vast majority of politicians are self-serving, dishonest vermin WHATEVER party they purport to represent. So, by all means slag off the Tories but whilst you're at it, do the same to Labour and all the other charlatans who are busy filling their pockets in the guise of representing their constituent's interests. And don't get me started on the fcuking Unions, the fat cats there are the worst scum of all.
There used to be definitive distinction between the two main parties with their policies and principles but it's become blurred as to what who actually represents the majority of the working class of this country .Grass roots union representatives (unpaid) are the ones who put their necks on the line with no reward except long unpaid hours trying to represent a work force who has become apathetic, this is exactly want the employers / government desire and yes I'm sure there's corruption within the Unions , again the higher up the ladder the bigger the rewards .I haven't an answer and I pity my kids/grandkids futures because atm it's looking bleak for them.
I grew up in a poor part of swansea and managed to get on. But my personal situation doesn't mean I've become blinded to what these tory b*******s are doing. Bit by bit they are seeking to dismantle the fabric of this nation. It is an absolute scandal and I believe history will show them up to be the ruinous architects of social division that they truly are. The unions aren't perfect either but look at history and ask where we'd all be if they hadn't stood up for the exploited masses over the last 100 years. The tories would be delighted to see a return of landed gentry and impoverished Victorian slums. The sooner this country wakes up and kicks these sleaze balls out of power, the better.
Like I said on the other thread I put up on the 'The obscene tory party' they are the worst of the scum, but as Ivor has stated correctly, they are all self serving scum, with not a shred of interest in the working man, surely sufficient time has gone by for all of you to see that, and they'll not stop now, with the unions broken by Thatcher, there is no one you can trust in that whore house they call Westminster, trully an evil lot!...............
!00 % agree with you Ivor and if anyone thinke that any one party is different from another they need to wake up. Wanting to be a politician should ban them from being one.
Two things I won't discuss in public - Politics and my wife's dress size! I too grew up in a tough part of Swansea (guess there were only four or five who lived in West Cross! and they follow rugby) Having seen what the Unions were up to in the Steel Industry and what Maggie and Sir Keith were up to in parliament I decided to do something about it as I knew that if I stayed I couldn't do much to change the scenario. I came to Canada where we don't worry too much about politics - it's hard to tell who is in power and we sit next to one of the biggest economies in the world which, despite what Obama and the republicans may say, is actually run by big business through lobbyists and interest groups etc. So until you get to the same situation in Britain - you'll be subjected to politicians that are self-serving and, unlike the US and Canada, actually influence the majority of your life. Kind of talked around politics and my wife does not go to the petite section!
trunds i think you should wake up to be honest mate...this is what the tories want you to think and people are beginning to wake up to their propaganda.....never believe a word any tory says as they dont care about anyone who is working class and trying to make a living.....I have a bit of money and dont need to go through these welfare cuts myself but im old enough to have witnessed how much the tories starting with thatcher era have pushed the working man towards an early grave that today the working man through privatization have seen their wages fall considerably that they are not earning enough to live on and in some cases not much more than welfare that the law says is enough to live on.....Its a propaganda ploy to turn the working class against the sick and disabled and the old age so they can cut their benefits even further.... welfare paid out is very small around 1% of all taxes. the bankers and high earners take more.....I myself am a socialist labour and hate tory boy Blair for forming New labour which in effect is old tory but even i will have to vote for them just to kick these tories into touch....don't be conned by these toffs if you want your future generations to have a life...
