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The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    The budget would quadruple, many of the companies involved would strangely become insolvent before actually doing any work......and the project would be abandoned after millions more were spent on a feasibility study by a firm one of whose directors coincidentally happened to be the husband of a minister. You know the drill.
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    In other news, golf claps all round for Jussie Smollett for ****ing up on an almost inconceivable scale - but he didn't **** things up for himself, he ****ed them up for everyone else because thanks to him staging an assault and blaming it on Trump supporters not means the alt-right currently running around demanding a pound of flesh from those who doubted them because this was the one time a wolf coincidentally happened to be nearby when their cried wolf when they immediately claimed it was a false flag attack because of reasons, but it also guarantees that every racially-aggravated assault by members of the far-right will be met by a chorus of "It's fake because Jussie Smollett faked his attack" until the end of time

    Bravo, Jussie. Bravo.
     
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  3. The RDBD

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    Just like the Asia Argento ***** effect on #metoo.

    However as far as the USA mainstream media goes : unforgivable.
    With their collective wallets to be imminently burned by Nemesis over
    the Covington boys debacle, you would have thought they would have
    done "due diligence" on this story.

    But no, stupid is as stupid (repeatedly) does.
     
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  4. PleaseNotPoll

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  5. deedub93

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    says it all

     
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  6. NSIS

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    I’ve been waiting for something like this to happen.

    The two main parties have become increasingly polarised and have alienated themselves to a large section of the electorate. As the Tories get dragged ever further right by Moggy and his little bunch of loons, Labour is taken back further and further to the1970’s by Corbyn and cohorts. It’s left a huge gap in the middle of the UK political spectrum that’s crying out to be filled.
     
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  7. littleDinosaurLuke

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    Honda to close their plant in Swindon with the loss of 3,500 jobs(and doubtless many other jobs in satellite businesses).
    Any connection to Brexit is, of course, entirely coincidental.
    Brexit is absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with it. Not even a consideration.
    Anyone suggesting Brexit was a factor is just scaremongering.
    It's all to do with "global trends" - whatever that means.
     
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  8. vimhawk

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    This almost happened in 1981, but not only did the Falklands War turn Maggie from one of the most hated PMs ever to (at the time) one of the most popular, it also pretty much squashed the emergence of the SDP.
     
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  9. deedub93

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    Well at least I know what to do if Brexit causes a national emergency, go and play golf, because that's how the American president deals with one.
     
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  10. PowerSpurs

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    It's not likely to happen but it would be amusing to see the President testify and be cross examined on the events leading to the emergency....
     
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  11. humanbeingincroydon

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    "We should have a Second Referendum"
    "What about your constituents?"
    "Sorry, I can't hear you"

    And there goes any credibility Chukka & Co had.
     
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  12. NSIS

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    And here’s what they said not 6 months ago....


    "The UK forms part of our global network of manufacturing plants, so the only place we produce the vehicle we produce at Swindon is in Swindon itself," Ian Howells, Honda Europe's senior vice-president, told the BBC in September.

    "The logistics of moving a factory the size of Swindon would be huge and as far as we're concerned, we're right behind supporting continued production at Swindon."


    But, as you say, nothing to do with this calamitous bunch of warring clowns dragging the country ever closer to the no deal abyss. No sireee....no way!..
     
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  13. deedub93

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    Well then perhaps a seat in the un-elected Upper House might be the solution, Britain needs guys like him. A Politician who speaks sense.
     
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  14. The RDBD

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    Based on my observations as a teen during that time, it was
    the pact with the Liberals that irked (Labour supporting) adults
    more.

    This new bunch do not have a political gravitas remotely close
    to that of the "gang of four" , whether "independent" or actually
    forming a new political party.
     
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  15. humanbeingincroydon

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    Problem is that if he doesn't get his way in the Upper House, he'll spend two years stamping his feet threatening to start a new House

    On the plus side he might take Karrunt Brady with him...
     
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  16. The only Global Trend is that an increasing % of the world considers the UK to be a failing basket case, tearing itself a new arse from the inside out.....
     
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  17. The Huddlefro

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    I think it's interesting to wonder if the Brexit process both in the lead up to, and the public discourse after, the vote, is a symptom or the cause of the mess we are in right now. Politics is ultimately about compromise and too much is now invested by both sides, but particularly the activist Left in my opinion, in this idea that "We must win the idealogical war for the future of our nation and culture at all costs, no matter who we alienate, and anyone who disagrees with us is literally Hitler and can never be spoken to, let alone debated and a compromise with them reached." The right is guilty as well of course. This is not aided by the social climate we live in, or a parliamentary system that prioritises cheap point scoring and heckling rather than constructive debate, or a system of democracy that seems to actively at times discourage any element of cooperation or compromise.

    There is a lot that has built up to this - how our young people are raised and educated, and social media not least being two serious concerns.

    I don't see a party or individual to align myself with in UK politics and would feel a great deal of resistance to voting for them in either case if that vote would potentially help bring Corbyn or May to power, as I think they are both in their own ways incompetent and not suited to the position of PM. Then again as a US/UK dual national, I look at the country of my birth and think things aren't so bad here in the UK, particularly when it comes to creating a political and social environment where debate and compromise in good faith is possible and encouraged.
     
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  18. Chuka is MP for a constituency that voted 70% Remain...... just saying....
     
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  19. humanbeingincroydon

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    He;s also MP for a constituency where 68.5% of them voted Labour...
     
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  20. This initial 7 are surely only the start..... have a feeling that there will be some ‘names’ to follow. However, I would agree that there are few standoutscto match the likes of Jenkins or Williams. Maybe still time for Kenneth Clarke? <laugh>
     
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