1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

?

Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    Stroller….it’s obvious to many that Labour has abandoned the working class vote and has adapted a policy of globalisation and neo-liberalism. It started with Blair and has now continued with Starmer.
    Therefore I can only conclude that supporters of Labour are happy with that direction and are in fact, supportive of that change.
    As I said before…if the cap fits. Please don’t take it as an insult
     
    #74521
  2. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    Labour lost the working class vote because they forgot to talk to the working class. The Tories manipulated that and used it to their advantage….it’s what politicians do….they lie. All of them
     
    #74522
  3. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    70,155
    Likes Received:
    57,680
    Yet they offered policies that would have benefitted the poorest in society. They just refused to blindly back a Brexit that everyone knew would **** the working class and have the temerity to give a **** about groups like transgenders.
     
    #74523
  4. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    24,681
    Likes Received:
    24,095
    As I've explained before, the cap doesn't fit and it therefore is an insult. But then insults seem to be your modus operandi these days.

    I want to see a left wing government. The current Labour party may not provide that, but it would be a darn site closer than what we currently have.

    You seem happier with the Tories.
     
    #74524
  5. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    If you think the EU was pro working class then there really is no hope Bracknell
     
    #74525
  6. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    24,681
    Likes Received:
    24,095
    Do you think the Tories are?
     
    #74526

  7. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    A Left wing party that has kicked out anyone who is even remotely Left wing and has steadily moved further to the right ?
    I have my principles and was hoodwinked once already by Blair and New Labour…..it won’t happen again
     
    #74527
    kiwiqpr likes this.
  8. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    Absolutely not……that’s why I wouldn’t vote for them if my life depended on it.
    But the mainstream alternative is no better
     
    #74528
  9. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    70,155
    Likes Received:
    57,680
    All that money they pumped into our poorest regions will be replaced some day probably.
     
    #74529
  10. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    Where did the money originate from ?
     
    #74530
  11. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    70,155
    Likes Received:
    57,680
    That’s not really the ****ing point is it. Our **** **** government isn’t going to re-distribute it in nearly as fair a way.

    There are two, at a push, parties that can win an election. Any vote not for the party likeliest to oust the Tories in any seat might as well be a vote for the Tories. Your fantasy Corbyn-style Labour Party has been massively rejected because this simply isn’t a left wing country. I wish it was but it isn’t.
     
    #74531
  12. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    But that’s entirely the point. And the fact that people like you and Strolls were happy with that situation is totally bizarre. The rich fat cat, friends of business in the EU were rubbing their hands with glee as they took their cut of the money before redistributing what was left after filling up their pension funds.
    We can only defeat one enemy at a time. The EU wasn’t our friend and neither are the Tories
     
    #74532
  13. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    70,155
    Likes Received:
    57,680
    I’m afraid you’re living in a fantasy world. The proles aren’t going to rise up.
     
    #74533
  14. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    Better to at least try, rather than bow at the feet of Neo-Liberalism…just ‘cos your ilk think it’s better than nothing.
    2 cheeks of the same arse
     
    #74534
  15. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    70,155
    Likes Received:
    57,680
    That’s bollocks and I doubt you really believe it.
     
    #74535
  16. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    I seriously do. And if you looked at it without blinkers…then you would too
     
    #74536
  17. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    70,155
    Likes Received:
    57,680
    You really look at Starmer, with his history and background, and don’t think it would be massively closer to what you believe in than what Johnson offers?
     
    #74537
  18. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    I support neither
     
    #74538
  19. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    24,681
    Likes Received:
    24,095

    Only two parties can win the next election. Pick a side.
     
    #74539
  20. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    Nope
     
    #74540

Share This Page