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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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  1. kiwiqpr

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    Ukraine authorities say seized Russian tanks don’t need to be declared on tax form
    Corruption-fighting body urges citizens to ‘continue to defend the motherland’ while easing any concerns about ‘significant changes in the property status’

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    It’s not often that tax can lift people’s spirits but Ukrainian authorities may have done just that, assuring citizens that any Russian military equipment they seize won’t need to be declared for tax purposes.

    “Have you captured a Russian tank or armoured personnel carrier and are worried about how to declare it? Keep calm and continue to defend the motherland!” Ukraine’s National Agency for the Protection against Corruption (NAPC) said, according to the Ukraine arm of the Interfax news service.


    The agency went on to explain there was “no need to declare the captured Russian tanks and other equipment, because the cost of this ... does not exceed 100 living wages (UAH248,100) ($8,298).”


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    Russia-Ukraine war: what we know on day eight
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    The rare wry moment comes as fighting intensifies across Ukraine and the conflict enters its eighth day. Cities across Ukraine came under heavy bombardment including the capital Kyiv and the second largest city, Kharkiv, sparking an exodus of more than a million people, according to the head of the United Nations refugee agency.

    Ukraine continued to push back against the advance of Russian forces, and Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskiy on Wednesday praised the “heroic” resistance to Moscow’s invasion. Citizens in Ukraine have been seen preparing molotov cocktails and learning how to use arms as civilians join forces to defend their country.

    Moments of defiance: how Ukraine has stood up to Russia – video
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    In its statement, the NACP said “combat trophies” would not be required to be declared for income tax purposes in part because they were acquired “in connection with the full-scale aggression of the Russian Federation” against the “independent and sovereign Ukrainian state”.

    “Thanks to the courage and victory of the defenders of the Ukrainian state, enemy military equipment usually comes to you already destroyed and disabled, which makes it impossible to evaluate it in accordance with the law,” it said.

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    “At the same time, the NACP continues to ensure the technical possibility of providing notifications of significant changes in the property status for the acquisition of objects seized from the Russian army, if there is a desire to declare same,” the statement concluded
     
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  2. Steelmonkey

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    Things obviously not going to plan if you've got Major Generals close enough to the front line to get killed



     
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    Ben Wallace, Defence Secretary, on the wireless saying ‘we are not going to be scared of Putin’. From where I stand, given that Putin is a madman with nuclear weapons, a bit of fear might be sensible, help us form an appropriate strategy.
     
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    Brexit Ben is scared of no man nor beast.
     
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    He spoke really well today.
     
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    The fact the ruskies can't keep their major generals safe should inspire confidence from the conscripts
     
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    Putin would love us to form our strategy in fear. And then he'd make more threats, for more gain.
     
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    I don’t care. He’s a ****.
     
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    Agree Goldie. An ex US general on CNN last night said that all Putin has left is fear. He has more political prisoners than he does troops. All this nuke talk is because he has messed up big time and people are seeing him as weak. I am also glad ( although you have to consider the civilians) that Ukraine rejected the safe corridors to Russia because he would have used it as propaganda.

    On another note, I see that some Labour MPs are blaming the Tories for everything at the moment. That Kinnock lad moaned yesterday saying that the Tories “knew about the invasion and had months to prepare?” Maybe if Labour hadn’t wasted every bit off air time and PMQs for the last 6 months on ‘partygate’ things may have been different? I think some of those MPs should take a leaf out of Starmers book and stay silent.
     
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    You know nothing about him.
     
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    I know he’s a ****.
     
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    <laugh> I walked into that one. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    NATO is absolutely scared, otherwise it would have imposed the no-fly zone that Zelensky has been calling for.
     
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    Of course. And we haven’t even supplied him the old planes he’s asked for.

    Might be the right call, although Colonel Blimp would probably be at the gates of Moscow by now.
     
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  17. Stroller

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    I think it probably is the right call for the time being, but it's hard to see how Putin will be stopped otherwise.
     
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    Nato is a defensive alliance. In order to enforce a no fly zone over a non-member, it would have to shoot down Russian aircraft. It would be acting beyond its remit, and it could be seen as an act of aggression.
     
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  19. Stroller

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    Yes, I know.

    How would you suggest Putin can be stopped?
     
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  20. kiwiqpr

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    Wheres all those planes the Europeans are sending
     
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