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The Last Pass

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  1. Class of 73

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    Morning all,
    Don't Post often (that's an understatement) but thought this is worth advertising. Have a look at 'The Last Pass' on the BBC website. Sobering, humbling and fantastic read about young lads stepping away from the game to fight in WW1. It includes a truly inspiring story about the Seed brothers from Sunderland, who never gave up; heroes both.
    Lest we forget
     
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    Already read it! Born in Blackhill. Liked the fact that straight after the war he was standing at a train station and his former Sunderland team mates turned up and told him they were a man short and he played their next game. Cant imagine that happening nowadays.
     
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    Surviving two separate gas attacks, watching your friends die in front of you and yet going on to successfully play again and manage a club. Man of steel,
     
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    Am I right in saying he won the FA cup as player and manager?
     
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    He did, an incredible journey in life, sad that he never came back to Sunderland
     
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    Awesome story - I wonder of the lads of the same age today would have as much steel? The "life owes me" culture really gets to me sometimes
     
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    I am an ex regular serviceman albeit not in todays sense. I used to hear and still hear the cry "Bring back National Service". There was a time that I thought it might not be such a bad idea but have since changed my mind. Reasoning being that if you were in a situation where you relied totally on the man next to you or behind you and you had somebody who didn't want to be there and only wanted out then where would that leave you. It isn't the active services that are here to sort out the "Youth of today". The truth is you will never know if they had the balls to do what a lot of young people did all those years ago. Times have changed and warfare has changed. You will never get a situation where millions of men face each other from their trench and charge over the top to almost certain death. Those days were men of steel led by donkeys. Duty is no longer the thing and to some extent isn't it a good job it isn't.
     
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    I too am an ex regular serviceman - we could debate but respect totally your thoughts
     
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    I too am an ex service man, and have put my life on the line, and fought in campaigns for queen and country, and would do so again willingly if the call came.
     
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    Reintroducing National Service could help unite this much divided country imo. And maybe solve the recruitment issue without resorting to looking overseas as has been suggested.
     
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    The Last Pass
    By Owen Phillips & Andrew Aloia

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    On the orders of Captain Wilfred Nevill, a football was booted into no man's land for troops to follow as they left their trenches.

    This was no game.

    These men weren't racing through on goal having breached the defence on a muddy football pitch, they were British soldiers bearing down on German lines on the first tragic day of the Battle of the Somme.

    Many only survived a few steps.

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    At this point the Football League was barely 25 years old, Wembley Stadium was still to be built and there hadn't even been a World Cup.

    Yet scores of British soldiers would clamber over the top to chase down what would be their last pass.

    Football was to play a fascinating role during World War One, from England internationals helping to form special Footballers' Battalions to the emergence of the women's game, as well as the morale-boosting effect the sport had on the troops both deep behind the lines and all along the front.

    Immersed in it all was one footballing family.

    At the outbreak of war Jimmy Seed was 19. Life was good.

    He had just earned a contract with Sunderland and escaped a miserable, unrelenting life as a coal miner.

    "I was thrilled to sign professional forms for the side that had been known as the Team of all Talents, one of the biggest clubs in the land," Jimmy said in his book The Jimmy Seed Story.

    "I was supposed to receive a signing-on fee of £10 but was only given £5 for some reason. My three months' summer vacation wages were £1, which was just enough to get by on at the time, as I lived at home with my parents. It was with joy I folded my miner's clothes for the last time. I was a professional footballer."

    Sunderland were already five-time league champions and Jimmy didn't care about the sneaky deal which deprived him of £5 (almost three times the average weekly wage).

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    Football, and Sunderland, was his life. He went to games at Roker Park with his four brothers and now the club was his work as well as his hobby. Football was huge and Jimmy Seed was part of the most exciting period the sport had ever known.

    But it wasn't the smoothest of journeys. Jimmy had "failed hopelessly" in his first trial. He had to borrow boots which were too big and played out of position at centre forward. The match itself came after a full night shift at the colliery.

    "I did nothing and realised as I dressed after the trial in readiness for another night shift that Sunderland would not be interested in me," said Jimmy.

    "I was in low spirits because I had come to loathe working in the pits."

    But his impressive exploits as a teenager with Whitburn's first team soon led to a second chance, this time playing in his best role as an inside forward. He scored a hat-trick in a dazzling performance.

    "Life in the coal mines was dire," Jimmy's grandson James Dutton, 62, told BBC Sport.

    It's difficult to express how awful it was. Football was like a way out of hell.

    "I know he hated it. He said it was an awful existence and couldn't wait to get out."

    But a mining life was the expected path for the Seeds, a working-class family who had relocated from Blackhill in County Durham and settled in Whitburn in 1897, two years after Jimmy was born.

    Jimmy's dad, Anthony, worked in the papermaking industry in Shotley Bridge, but was increasingly concerned about the future of the mill as manufacturing techniques moved on. There were five sons and five daughters to support.

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    Jimmy (left) and Angus with parents Anthony and Elizabeth

    Mining at the Whitburn Colliery provided relative security but Jimmy had other plans. He was born in what he later described as "England's richest soccer nursery", and lived a couple of miles from Roker Park. He said he could "hardly fail to follow the soccer trail because in Whitburn soccer is meat and drink to all the boys".

    The Seeds had the football bug, in particular Angus - one of Jimmy's four older brothers - as well as the youngest of the 10 siblings, his little sister Minnie.

    But Jimmy's joy was short-lived. In April 1914 he was a professional footballer, yet he never got the chance to play for Sunderland's first team.

    After almost 18 months playing for the reserves, fantasy football was soon to be replaced by the horrible reality of war.

    On 4 August 1914, as Europe descended into conflict following that summer's assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austro-Hungarian Empire, Great Britain declared war on Germany.

    By the end of the month, the process of trying to raise the biggest volunteer army ever seen was well under way.

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    Winter arrived and the conflict and killing, which many had hoped would be over by Christmas, continued.

    A formal "Truce of God" proposed by the Pope was rejected.

    The morale of troops, however, was of concern.

    In December, 460,000 parcels and 2.5 million letters were delivered to British soldiers in France. King George V sent a card to every soldier and a brass box of gifts was given to each man serving.

    Among the carnage, a touch of Christmas cheer was brought to the front.

    Incredibly, on Christmas Eve deadly rivals sang carols to each other from their trenches.

    It's to this peaceful soundtrack that it is said football brought both sides together for what Fifa describes as "one of the most celebrated" matches.

    Unofficial truces undoubtedly took place on Christmas Day, with presents exchanged and makeshift balls kicked around in no man's land.

    But the full-scale match itself, an event further promoted by much-loved BBC comedy series Blackadder Goes Forth, Paul McCartney's song Pipes of Peace and a popular Christmas advertising campaign, is most likely a myth that has turned into legend.

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    "The Christmas truce is amazing in being one of the most recognised things from World War One in terms of capturing popular imagination," said Dr Jackson.

    "It is embraced because of the idea that football is a means of bringing people together. At that level you can see why, philosophically and on a sentimental level, it is taken on."

    Fraternising with the enemy, while a romantic notion and one that was widely publicised in newspapers at the time, infuriated High Command.

    Repeat offences would be punished by Court Martial. This was all-out war.

    At home, Jimmy Seed was becoming increasingly torn as the season unfolded.

    Still a teenager at 19, he was impressing with Sunderland's reserves but his dream career path was in tatters, his moral compass no doubt confused.

    He was conflicted by the conflict and the need to play his part, yet desperate to lead the footballing life he craved.

    It was a familiar story for many and the Seed family were no exception.

    Angus was a reserve player with Reading in 1914 but signed up as the recruitment drive proved an astounding success. The call for volunteers had hoped to attract 100,000 men. Within two months, more than 750,000 signed up.

    Angus was soon preparing for war and picking up tips for fitness training, as he explained in a letter to Reading's secretary.

    "We are getting on fine here," said Angus. "And if they keep giving us the drills we had this morning, we will have muscles like stones.

    "It would do some of the boys good to come down here, it would harden them up a bit."

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    Jimmy (left) described Angus as his "champion"

    He became part of the battalion's musical band, who also doubled as stretcher-bearers. And although usurped by Jimmy - who took his place in the local team as a young teenager - on the football field, Angus would excel on the battlefield.

    Jimmy was the family's footballing star, but idolised Angus, reflecting that his big brother was "always my champion".

    At the end of the 1914-15 season, Jimmy, who had just turned 20, finally joined up.

    "He would have seemed to be one of the least likely people in the world to sign up when he had just got a contract with Sunderland," added his grandson James Dutton.

    But Jimmy's priorities had changed.

    Football had ceased to be the most important thing in life for me. Britain and Germany were at war and playing football was no longer such a thrill."

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    Jimmy volunteered alongside fellow Sunderland players Tommy Thompson and Tom Wilson, joining the 63rd Northumbrian Division in the Cycling Corps. They trained in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire.

    Unsurprisingly, the trio formed the nucleus of a particularly useful team. They beat Grimsby, then a Football League side, in a friendly and quickly became known as the best football side in the military.

    The month after Jimmy volunteered, in May 1915, the second Footballers' Battalion - the 23rd Middlesex - was formed.

    Coaches, referees and fans would go on to serve alongside their heroes. Truly a one-for-all approach. By 1918, approximately 4,500 men would serve the 17th Middlesex, with around 900 never to return to Blighty.

    A total of 1,500 men lost their lives across the two Footballers' Battalions.



    As the stalemate continued on the Western Front, the war was about to enter its most brutal phase.

    On 1 July 1916, more than 100,000 British troops left their trenches along a 15-mile front to advance across no man's land towards the German lines.

    That first day of the Battle of the Somme was to become the bloodiest in the history of the British Army.



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    In 141 days, the British had advanced just seven miles and failed to break the German defence.

    More than one million had been killed or wounded on all sides during the Battle of the Somme - yet the conflict was no closer to a resolution.

    Although football had ceased in its pre-war form at home, it had become increasingly important in all areas of army life.

    Battalion football was huge. Kickabouts were a daily part of the routine, vital for morale and offering brief escapism from what was happening along the Western Front.

    Meanwhile, Jimmy Seed was by now fighting his own personal battle - as well as the bigger battle.

    "After arriving in France in the summer of 1916, he struggled, suffering with bad periods of depression, which were only relieved by playing football," explained grandson James Dutton.

    "He was captain of his battalion team and his good friend Tommy Wilson was captain of another battalion of the Leeds Rifles. These football games really helped him."

    Like so many of those that served, Jimmy remained secretive about many of the details of his time in the army. But his passion for football never wavered and undoubtedly helped him deal with war.

    "I am sure they played whenever they could," added Dutton.

    "There was an impression all soldiers were shoved in trenches until they died. But they went back behind the lines for rest and relaxation and played football then."

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    But World War One soldiers were not exclusively engaged in trench warfare.

    By July 1917, Jimmy was in Belgium.

    "He and his fellow comrades were sleeping in a basement of a bombed out building in Nieuwpoort, near Ostend, and the Germans dropped mustard gas from an aeroplane," said Dutton.

    "It was a major incident. Nearly 100 soldiers died and about 700 were hospitalised, including Jimmy."

    Jimmy underplayed his time in the army as "worrying and uncertain days".

    The only aspect of soldiering he missed was the friendship and the football.

    Football helped me to escape from periods of mental depression."

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    Whenever the soldiers were afforded a reprieve from the trenches, they could be seen playing behind the lines.

    Even with shells falling nearby, they would continue. It perplexed the French troops.

    "Certainly the French took the view of 'what are these crazy British guys doing?' as often they would be seen playing football behind the lines," said Dr Jackson.

    "The French army at the time didn't integrate sport into their philosophy, and during the war it began to be adopted because they could see the health benefits and how it was serving as a distraction."

    World War One would prove instrumental in spreading the popularity of football among the French masses, as it was previously seen as a sport played by Anglophiles and the elite middle class.

    "Through constant exposure and playing against British army teams the French got quite good, quite quickly," added Dr Jackson.

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    "The war did pave the way to a post-war football boom."

    And it was not just the French who latched onto football during the war. An estimated 250,000 Belgians fled to the UK following the German invasion of 1914.

    The game was embraced as a favourite pastime, and football did its best to welcome the monumental influx of refugees.

    Blackpool FC even changed the colour of their kit to that of the Belgian flag in an effort to make them feel more at home.

    Football was also used as a way to raise charitable funds, with Belgian soldiers coming together to form a team that toured Britain.

    The Belgians got so good that they went on to win gold at the 1920 Olympic Games, then the biggest international prize in world football.

    And, 100 years on from the end of the Great War, France won their second World Cup, having overcome Belgium at the semi-final stage of the competition in Russia.



    Great Britain's allies were not the only ones to find their footballing feet during the chaos of war.

    The demands put on society saw women move into jobs and become accepted in roles that were previously the sole domain of men. Football was no different.



    As the war raged towards a bloody conclusion in 1918, the death toll was so horrific that it changed the very structure of the British army.

    The birth of women's football - its first golden age - would coincide with the demise of the Footballers' Battalions.

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    A shortage of manpower in the British Army saw the 17th Middlesex - which had been reinforced a number of times since 1915 - disbanded in February 1918, with troops bolstering other units.

    Walter Tull, among the battalion's earliest recruits, a war hero and pioneering officer with the 23rd Middlesex, was killed a month later.

    Tull, who overcame poverty and racism to become one of English football's first black players, was hit by machine-gun fire trying to rally his troops near Arras.

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    He was the first black man to command white troops.

    While the men he led tried to recover his body, they never did.

    "At this stage of the war, you knew that if you left someone out there you may never find their body again," said Dr Jackson. "And it was that love and care for a comrade, even after death, that said volumes about how much they respected him."

    Unlike Tull, Jimmy Seed survived the war, but only just.

    He had recovered sufficiently to be given the all-clear to go back to France at the end of August 1918.

    Less than two months later he was gassed again, this time in Valenciennes, France, about 30 miles south east of Lille.

    The Battle of Amiens in August 1918 heralded the beginning of the end of World War One, prompting a string of military victories for the Allied forces.

    At 11am on the 11th day of the 11th month, Germany signed an armistice prepared by Great Britain and France.

    The war was over, the rebuilding could begin.

    For Jimmy Seed, the rebuilding included his football career.

    The gassings would affect him for the rest of his life - not least when he tried to resume playing way too early.

    Jimmy was getting a train back to Wigan, where he was recuperating, and bumped into the Sunderland team on the platform.

    His team-mates recognised him, explained they were a player short and asked him to make up the numbers.

    "Foolishly he said, yes," explained his grandson James Dutton.

    "But his lungs were not in good order. He had an appalling match in the Victory League (an unofficial First Division fixture).

    "It went horribly wrong and, on the back of that, one of the Sunderland directors hauled him in and said 'we are going to let you go'. They suggested he went back to the pit so he could 'sort his health out'.

    "That was heartbreaking and he was very depressed.

    "It must have been astonishingly tough for him having survived near death and seeing his dream of being a professional footballer shattered in front of his eyes."

    Jimmy said in his book: "I was hurt when I learnt that my poor display meant I was never to play for Sunderland again. Now I felt bitter for the first time in my life. I was 23, suspect in health and, worst of all, unwanted at Sunderland."

    The left-back went on to earn nine England caps, captaining his country four times.

    In 1925, Wadsworth led England out in front of more than 90,000 spectators at Hampden Park.

    The visitors lost 2-0 in what also proved to be Jimmy Seed's final international appearance - and his footballing journey after the war was every bit as remarkable as that of his skipper for the day.

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    After Jimmy's second gassing, he was only deemed fit enough to be discharged from the army five months later, in March 1919.

    The rejection by Sunderland left him devastated - and unemployed.

    Manual labour and odd jobs replaced his pre-war career to make ends meet. He had kickabouts among the slag heaps with kids near the Whitburn Colliery and turned out for the local cricket team to keep fit.

    But Jimmy never returned to the mines.

    His salvation came with an unlikely move to Wales to play for Mid Rhonnda FC in the coalmining area of Tonypandy.

    Jimmy's signing proved a masterstroke and in seven splendid months he helped the team win three trophies.

    His rebirth was noted. Tottenham came calling.

    "It was like a dream," Jimmy recalled in his book. "Discarded by Sunderland before the start of one season, and now wanted by the famous Tottenham Hotspur club at the end of the next."

    His move to London could hardly have gone better. In 1921 he was an FA Cup winner, then the prestigious pinnacle of a player's domestic career.

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    Jimmy made his England debut against Belgium in 1921

    The same year he won the first of his five England caps. His redemption was remarkable.

    Jimmy left Tottenham for Sheffield Wednesday in 1927 after "eight years without a grumble" when the club insisted on reducing his wages.

    It proved a spectacular mistake by Tottenham. The Owls won eight of their 10 remaining games to avoid relegation - at the expense of Spurs, who capitulated towards the end of the season.

    As captain, Jimmy then led Wednesday to back-to-back league titles in 1928-29 and 1929-30.

    A knee injury forced him to retire from playing in 1931, first managing Clapton Orient and then Charlton, in 1933.

    In 23 wonderful years at The Valley, Jimmy Seed became a legend, leading them to consecutive promotions to the top flight and then, in 1936-37, the runners-up spot - their highest-ever position.

    The greatest day in Charlton's history came in 1947, when a 1-0 win over Burnley saw them win the FA Cup.

    But the glorious success still hid dark times.

    He was "encouraged" to resign in 1956 after a miserable start to the season. It was front-page news and he never truly got over it.

    Jimmy's daughter Gladys went into labour on hearing that her dad had effectively been sacked. James Charlton Dutton was born the same day, three weeks early.

    "Grandad really struggled after being sacked by Charlton," added Dutton. "But he still thought he was very lucky.

    It's easy to say 'poor Jimmy', but he had a charmed life in a way and he seemed determined to live life to the full.

    "Many who fought in World War One weren't nearly as lucky and he seemed to know it."

    The war experiences, and the impact on his health, did not make it easy.

    "Depression affected grandad throughout his life," said Dutton. "It came back to bite him a few times. He had problems with his lungs and his breathing and intense headaches.

    "He never used to admit it was to do with the war and being gassed."

    But Dutton has wonderful memories of his "play-mate".

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    Jimmy with wife Peggy and daughter Gladys

    "Growing up I had heard of my grandad who had played football for England and won the FA Cup," he said.

    "My first memory of him is from when I was about six and we moved back to live with my grandparents in Bromley. I thought he was a superstar.

    "He was a rather striking looking chap with silver hair but he was just grandad to me.

    "We would watch the horse racing together, play football in the garden and he taught me to play cricket and golf."

    One day Jimmy suddenly opened up about his war experiences.

    "We were gobsmacked," added his grandson. "I remember it clearly.

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    "I was about eight and he was talking about how they were trying to capture a bridge from the Germans. They were running down this bridge and two or three of his friends were killed running next to him.

    "He was a bit choked up and stopped talking and that was the only time I remember him talking specifically about the war.

    "Maybe he needed to get it out of his system, as he was getting older."

    But the war was a time Jimmy, like so many others, wanted to forget. He cherished his football life.

    "He was innovative and firm and fair," said Dutton. "He would explain his decisions and players loved him for that.

    Jimmy Seed was revered as a special player and respected as a manager.

    "Charlton made a huge amount of money through his transfer dealings, he believed in coaching players.

    "He was something of a celebrity and he loved it. People treated him with such reverence. People would ask me to get his autograph, I was so proud of him.

    "We became good chums. I was distraught when he died in 1966."

    Sister Minnie and brother Angus were both survived by Jimmy.

    Minnie married on Boxing Day 1923, with Jimmy missing an away game against Huddersfield to attend the wedding. Minnie had one son, Thomas, and died in 1948.

    Following the war, Angus became Aldershot's first-ever manager and was Barnsley boss for 16 years from 1937. While at the Tykes, he appointed Tom Ratcliff, whose life he saved in 1916, as his trainer. He died at the age of 60 in 1953.

    After leaving Charlton, Jimmy went on to be involved with Bristol City and Millwall, where he was still a director when he died midway through England's World Cup-winning campaign.

    It was just over a month shy of 50 years after the football-obsessed young man first set foot in France during World War One.

    Almost 100 years on from the day the guns fell silent to mark the end of the Great War, the only conflict between German and British armed forces will be on the football pitch.

    The Greatest Games of Remembrance, two matches being played in Nottingham, will commemorate this landmark Armistice Day.

    None of the participants are full internationals. They are not professionals. But they are football fans.

    Their match is not a kickabout behind the trenches on Flanders Fields, a brief and most welcome interlude before returning to the front line. It's just a game of football.

    But there will be a connection through sport as they pay tribute to their footballing forebearers.

    The commanding officer of the first Footballers' Battalion, Colonel Harry Fenwick, perfectly summed up the contribution of the men he led during the Great War...

    "I knew nothing of professional footballers when I took over this battalion.

    "But I have learnt to value them. Their esprit de corps was amazing. This feeling was mainly due to football - the link of fellowship which bound them together.

    "Football has a wonderful grip on these men and on the army generally."
     
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    Fascinating and depressing in equal measures.

    Puts into perspective how pathetic todays players are with all the rolling around and faking injury.
     
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    You know there's Jimmy Seed who has been to war, has suffered life threatening gassing and will guaranteed by plagued by PTSD and other mental issues turning out for the lads after randomly being asked, then you've got Yaya Toure who throws a strop because the club didn't bake him a ****ing birthday cake.
     
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