I was listening to an Irishwoman on Radio 5 Live driving in to work this morning, who runs a radio station for the migrants/Asylum seekers in The Jungle camp in Calais. I didn't catch the interview from the very start, but the 5 Live presenter was obviously of the same opinion as myself and kept asking her exactly why she was condoning the migrants throwing stones at Police and generally acting like animals over the last few days (and previously), when French authorities had moved in to tear down the makeshift accommodation and offer the occupants a slightly better place to stay, in the form of a shipping container which is at least warmer and is dry, rather than a makeshift ghetto full of tents, because that's what it essentially it's become. She then went on to say the reasons are because how fearful these people aere of being shipped off to various areas of France on the 'Mystery Bus', as none of them want to settle in France or apply for asylum there, especially away from Calais where they can run amok, attack British lorry drivers, and generally risk their own necks trying to board lorries or ferries headed this way. I'm sorry, but what bloody planet is she on ? Or is it just me ? Perhaps she'd rather they came here, (or better still Ireland if she loves them that much), and claimed personal benefits, social housing, and everything else they'd get for free that we would be paying for. Perhaps she'd rather they brought similar disorder to our streets when the authorities here did something they didn't like or agree with ? Like, heaven forbid, making them do some work for a living ? Just why isn't France making them do something worthwhile under strict supervision ? The young men in The Jungle are little more than animals and having proved that fact over the last couple of years should be treated as such. I'm not tarring the family groups there with the same tag who may be genuine asylum seekers, but I hope the British Government don't allow a single person from the Calais camp on to our shores. If I was the French Government, I'd send them back to where they came from and bulldoze the entire area.
I wonder how long before we are asked to close this thread, any stupid insults or aggressive over the top arguments and I will, just trying to keep the peace like.
It is a news item and although off topic actually effects all of us .. I have been in close contact, near Dunkerque and have a dent in my side door to prove it, a couple years ago coming back to the ferry on the long run into the port I was flagged down and 2 men and a woman begged me to take them to England ... when I said no one of the blokes "punched " the side of my van denting the side door as I drove on. I saw the mindless nasties on the BBC dinner time throwing rocks and allsorts at the LGV's those trucks cost upwards of £40k and in a lot of cases the drivers are responsible for the appearance and damage ..... Families in the jungle = probably less than 10% 99% of those thrown off lorries/ found etc are young single men, odd female very rare juvenile... It is about time it was bulldozed, and the Care for Calais charity woman also on at same time, didn't actually look in tears at her handiwork being destroyed ... until the pipeline back to beyond Greece /Turkey gets the message "there is no gold at the end of the road" they will keep on coming .. comment from migrant "we know where we are going is worse than this, but we want to be closer in case we have a chance " sorry you need to go home and fight for a place in society .. our grandparents and those before them did ... take your crimes bad attitude and lack of moral fibre elsewhere ..please ! almost EVERY COUNTRY ON ROUTE IS NOW RAZORWIRE BARRICADE ..IT WAS NEVER EVER LIKE THIS EVEN IN THE WAR ...
Another set of good reasons to leave the EU. Decide and regulate our own borders and let US decide who we turn away as undesirables, or prevent from travelling here in the first place.
I am VERY sympathetic to those people fleeing the barbarity of the primitive Islamic State - I would do everything that I could under those horrific circumstances to take my family away from their medieval 'justice' system and bloodlust. Having said that - as JGF has said - where are the families? the women? the children? Yes there are a few, but the majority are MEN - of working (fighting) age. Also, most of them are from Eritrea - nothing to do with the Syria conflict. I don't say this often, but I feel a bit sorry for France in all this - they (France) don't want them, WE don't want them - THEY don't want to be there - yet FRANCE is stuck with them. I could write a lot on this subject as it is very close to my heart and conscience, but I won't bore you all. Basically, the world needs to sit up and enforce a 'safe haven' in their own lands - with emphasis on the 'enforce'. The UN is as impotent as the League of Nations was back in the 1930s. The best (of a VERY bad) choice would be to: - Ally with Assad and the Russians to wipe out Islamic State (this is MORE important than anything else) - We did it with Stalin to defeat Hitler and we need to bite the bullet and do it again now. - Partition Iraq to give the Kurds their own state - on the condition that they give up their claims to Turkish territory.
Most of these conflicts seem to emanate from Islamic fundamentalism which has a hatred of Western capitalism which it sees as exploiting the rest of the world. They also have a similar hatred for other Muslims who don't share their precise views. Most of us have little idea of what it is like to live in such a scenario when fighting kicks off. This is now becoming a world wide problem and the migrants are part of the fall out. Sooner or later the world is going to have to deal with it whether we are in or out of the EU. . Overall I have sympathy for them but the numbers in Calais pale into insignificnace compared with the hoards parked up om other borders in Europe.
It's difficult because people shouldn't have to helplessly fight an evil group of bastards whilst the western world bomb everything and anything. They are trying to build a better future for themselves and I believe that it is selfish for us to deny that for them. Although some of their acts of desperation must be condemned. As for the borders argument, leaving the EU won't change people wanting to get here or trying to. Leaving would mean that..... 1) the Calais jungle will move to Blighty, 2) the EU won't care about people coming to us and they certainly won't try to stop people coming here 3) the grumpy bastards at border control will get even more miserable
Sorry matey ,they want in here for one reason,freeeebys that us the tax payer pays for. I do not want my money going to these people who are wanting handouts after handouts. We cannot look after our own,why should we look after these scumbags that what to kill or injure everything in there way.
All part of the plans for a European super state, controlled by one government. Start a war cause mass migration into europe. Water down the cultures and identities of the member states and then they are less likely to resist. If we stay in the EU this is what we have to look forward to.
No they are there to try and find work as they can speak English better than they can other european languages.
These are mostly migrants not refugees. if you're going to make statements get your facts right. We also have a moral duty to look after our own older people who have paid all the money in that runs the NHS now and to house our own homeless etc etc.
Explain how I did that?.. without using bodmas/ bodmis or any other such nonsense. The thread is titled "The Calais jungle camp" is it not? The majority of people in that camp are migrants .. yes or no?
I was simply stating the fact that we should let genuine asylum seekers to seek refugee status. You turned it on its head to get on the aggression. Of course we should help the homeless and the old. I never said we shouldn't.
