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The Breakfast Debate

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Apr 15, 2016.

  1. Irishshako

    Irishshako Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> he sounds a right twat. I got done against Fulham..<wah>
     
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  2. brb

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    it appears you can call someone a fat ****er....but...as soon has you call them a Scottish fat ****er, it's racist, i kid you not...OMG Gills fans would have a field day with him <laugh>
     
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  3. brb

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    Take a read when you get 5 minutes, worth a laugh..bollocks link don't work
     
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  4. Irishshako

    Irishshako Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>
     
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  5. Irishshako

    Irishshako Well-Known Member

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    Will do..<ok>
     
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  6. brb

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    Can't get the link to work properly, just type in Scottish Fat ****er into google and it will come up with an article from spiked-online.

    Bollocks I'll copy & paste the article here;

    What’s the world coming to when you can’t insult a Scotsman without fear of being hauled before the beak? This isn’t a dystopian nightmare; it’s the reality of thin-skinned Britain in 2014. On Saturday 5 April, three Gillingham fans were arrested on suspicion of a ‘racially aggravated public-order offence’ after reportedly callingRotherham manager Steve Evans a ‘fat Scottish ****er’ – or words to that effect. If the Gills fans are convicted, our society will have slid a little further down the slippery slope of intolerance.

    Should it be a crime to call someone a ‘fat Scottish ****er’? I don’t believe it should. I’d hope that Scots wouldn’t get their knickers in a twist over a bit of name-calling. However, while the phrase clearly isn’t a term of endearment, I can’t see how it is racist. Forget the dewy-eyed tosh of Braveheart; the truth is that the Scots are not an oppressed people. They’re not regarded as foreigners. They’re not treated as second-class citizens. They do not suffer employment discrimination. The ‘No Irish, no blacks’ signs that were once displayed by British landlords never applied to the Scots. Consequently, to call someone a ‘fat Scottish ****er’ isn’t an expression of xenophobic hostility, unlike racial insults such as ‘******’ or ‘paki’. It doesn’t reinforce the message that Scots ‘don’t belong here’. It’s just an insult. It’s no more racist than calling the Welsh ‘sheep shaggers’ or Scousers ‘hubcap thieves’.

    They won’t win prizes for wit or ingenuity, but many terrace taunts trade on regional stereotypes. In the context of a football stadium, these taunts are just ‘banter’. The insults are made in jest. Does anyone seriously believe in these stereotypes? I doubt it. Equally, I can’t imagine many fans on the receiving end are actually upset by the jibes.

    The problem with contemporary anti-racism is that this once-progressive struggle for equal rights has degenerated into a reactionary purge of inappropriate language. Little wonder that insulting other nationalities, regardless of whether they suffer discrimination, is now seen as racism. If insulting a Scotsman is deemed to be racist, one wonders what the language police will outlaw next. Will it be a crime to abuse footballers with ginger hair? Will football fans be nicked for perpetuating regional stereotypes? Will fans be prosecuted for referring to opposition fans as pikeys, inbreds or dole scroungers?

    You may laugh, but that is precisely what’s happening in Italy. Last summer, the Italian football federation (FIGC) introduced tough new sanctions to punish ‘territorial discrimination’ – insults aimed at fans from other regions of Italy. Both Juventus and Milan have been hit with partial stadium closures as punishment for anti-Neapolitan chants.
     
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  7. Irishshako

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    <ok> found it.
     
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  8. OLOF

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    I'm still here ya ****er<ok>
     
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  9. Irishshako

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    The southerner has gone to bed:grin::grin:
     
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  10. Eireleeds1

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    Me too <doh>
     
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  11. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Don't mention getting arrested to shaks it brings on his post traumatic stress.
    He keeps having flashbacks to the night spent in Holbeck cells where the station bitch made him hide the soap.
     
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  12. Eireleeds1

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    He kept the last bit quiet. Maybe that's why he keeps going back, it can't be the footie
     
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  13. Chippy / Glory

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    Morning paddy...

    Howse you today?
    Hope the blister on your finger from all that pressing of the like key is better, :emoticon-0169-dance
    A subtle pop, but not unseen! <laugh>
     
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  14. Chippy / Glory

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    Oh feck. I thought I was pming him..... Ahhhhhhh well, secrets out now.
     
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  15. Eireleeds1

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    Told you I can do subtle too <ok>
     
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  16. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    So what's the story today Glory. Is entire city centre closed for the big protest and who foots the bill for the extra 5k coppers that'll surely be needed to police the thing
     
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  17. Chippy / Glory

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    Not involved... Can't say.... But as I type pretty much the whole city centre will be closed. It is only 7.15. <doh>

    But for all the mocking, every journey starts with a few steps.
     
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  18. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Here's an interesting tweet
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    Simon O'Rourke (@simon_orourke)
    16/04/2016, 01:21
    If you're sitting on the fence about the march, ask yourself this hypothetical: it's 2018, Cellino is still owner. What league are #LUFC in?

    It's a good question but there are many worse owners out there and probably our next one will be worse given our track record of attracting duds
     
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  19. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    I don't see the prem as the be all and end all.
    No point being in any competition if you never have a chance of winning it.
    I just want us to be competing, and worth watching at whatever level we are playing at.
    Is that really too much to ask?

    Cellino will never run the club in a way that takes us forward so he needs to go.
    All the other corrupt or amateurish ****e is just the means by which he gets kicked out.
     
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  20. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    PS.
    If Simon O'rourke is so bothered then he should get his arse over here and get involved.

    He is just a gobby paddy!
     
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