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The 2014 Investec Derby

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Ron, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The rundown on the runners still engaged as at March 6 2014, including entries by trainer can be read here



    Odds check
     
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  2. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    April 10th 2014 - Fifteen second entries for the 2014 Investec Derby are revealed today and their addition means 133 horses now go forward for the premier Classic, worth £1,325,000 and run over a mile and a half at Epsom Downs on Saturday, June 7.
    It cost £8,000 to make a second entry in the Investec Derby and the two remaining options for horses to be added to the Investec Derby are at the £75,000 supplementary entry stage on Monday, June 2 or by winning the £50,000 Investec Derby Trial at the Investec Spring Meeting at Epsom Downs on Wednesday, April 23.

    More details can be found here
     
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  3. Cyclonic

    Cyclonic Well Hung Member

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    Ron, how does the entry work? I've been doing some research for an essay on 19th century racing and came across some interesting stuff. Horses seemed to be nominated for the classics very early on, maybe even on foaling. I came across horses who were excluded even before they open their two year old seasons.
     
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Cyclonic Well Hung Member

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    Then it looks like it was just the yearling stage. If you didn't pay up early in those days, you missed out. Thanks mate.
     
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    How about this for bad luck then Cyc. Entry as a yearling does not guarantee an entry
     
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    Cyclonic Well Hung Member

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    Gotta feel for the guys who misses out like that. Plan for years then have a wad of cash turn it all into ****.
     
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  8. MickDoonan

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    If you put a colt into training with stoute And so on the price for to have him trained and the price you paid for the horse on the breeding and so on why would you miss the yearling stage out ? I think coolmore and Hamadan do it properly just enter everything on what they know when they buy the horse it has the chance to stay 1m4f bred in the purple so why wait to see if he is a good 3 year old ! Saeed had enough horses and for me his racing manager and bloodstock agent never done there job right costing another £90,000 to enter the horse is ludicrous could have 3 good horses for that never mind run in a race !
     
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Kieren Fallon is set to ride Investec Derby contender True Story in the Betfred Dante Stakes as part of a new link-up with Godolphin. More on this
     
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  10. beeforsalmon

    beeforsalmon Well-Known Member

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    Epsom Derby tickets arrived. All set for this.

    [video=youtube;EG3fou1E6os]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG3fou1E6os[/video]
     
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  11. Bustino74

    Bustino74 Thouroughbred Breed Enthusiast

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    Been reading all the sites and although I can remember the Derby being run on the 1st June I can't remember the winner being announced as early as the 2nd week of May. According to all I read Australia's the greatest ever and home and hosed.
    Isn't this a bit odd?

    Having said that tomorrow's Dante is a non-event. OK Bunker could possibly spoil Kieran's day but it's a pitiful field for the premier Derby Trial and a Group 2 with a large purse. In fact York as a whole looks a big yawn.

    If this goes on as it is we'll soon only have 6 proper meetings in a season and the rest of the time we'll get videos from trainers talking about how their horses galloped after Virtual Racing at Tumbledown Park.

    Final point where's Tamerlo? Has anyone heard from him? I miss him.
     
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I don't know. I think he popped on here last Thursday
     
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  13. beeforsalmon

    beeforsalmon Well-Known Member

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    I know what you mean Bustino and I certainly don't buy into anything Mr O'Brien says! In fact, like most on here his ramblings somewhat put me off. I never fancied Australia one iota for the Guineas but having seen that run I'm very much on the bandwagon now, as unoriginal as that may be. The fact he is a Galileo colt out of Ouija Board simply screams Derby all over. In fact with some justification, you could argue he was the unlucky Guineas loser, saying as he, unlike the equally vaunted Kingman, actually 'won the race' on his side! He was over 2 lengths clear of those on his side which is a hell of an effort especially for one bred for further.

    I'll actually be at the Derby this year and that's probably why I'm showing a modicum of interest in it!
     
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  14. NassauBoard

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    I am with you on this and probably because I am off to The Derby too.
     
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    Nice one Nass <ok> Have you been before?
     
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    Australia is point and shoot material
     
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  17. NassauBoard

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    Nope, never really fancied it to be honest, but had some money in my racing4rewards account and fancied a free day out. I hope we see a special Derby winner!
     
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  18. beeforsalmon

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    Nice one. Hope you're right! As I'm on my stag do I simply hope I can see anything <laugh>
     
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  19. Bustino74

    Bustino74 Thouroughbred Breed Enthusiast

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    The Derby is a great race to go to as the atmosphere is terrific. I was there for Troy and Shahrastani. The excitement before and during the race is enormous. I have no idea if holding it on a Saturday has spoilt it but it shouldn't. The only race in terms of excitement on those two occasions that I can compare to them is the King George VI +QE in 1975. For me the Cheltenham Gold Cup didn't come near I'm afraid, but maybe I chose an ordinary year.

    If you've never seen the track, then you will wonder how a horse gets round it. The camber in the straight has to be seen to be believed.

    Having said that most of the supporting racing is poor (better this year with the Coronation Cup). Also it's not the greatest place to watch racing unless you get a good position in the stands.

    I hope you'll enjoy it. I may go.. not decided yet.
     
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  20. Reebok

    Reebok YTS Mod Staff Member

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    The only jumping there Nass, is the queue-jumping trying to get a drink!
     
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