The great champion of the left-wing showing his capitalist colours... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...Sunderland-pay-David-Miliband-Louis-Saha.html
Left wing? David Miliband? His father (a decent man) would turn in his grave if he knew how his sons had turned out.
There we all go again. The political centre ground lurches to the left about 20 years ago and nobody notices. New Labour was nothing more that a bunch of liberal-social elites donning city suits and stealing the language of the right in order to claim power for a decade. That's why we were fed the baloney about Blair being the heir to Thatcher and then Cameron claiming to be the heir to Blair. It's all about getting enough votes to wrest power and precious little to do conviction. You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time. Politicians thrive on being able to fool enough of the people all of the time. The likes of Miliband are no less left than their Labour predecessors. They've now just noticed that when they preach one thing and do another, not that many people see an outrageous contradiction any more, so why hide?
If it wasn't for "work shy ****s" we'd probably be digging potatoes or dead, not posting on the internet. (assuming you aren't aristocracy/landed gentry etc)
Please explain how Ralph Milliband has improved the lot of the British people, using facts if possible. I know how we improved his lot, as a member of a persecuted minority we gave him and his Dad shelter (although they forgot to bring his mother and sister with him), citizenship even when they could have contributed to the rebuilding of their own country, Belgium, and the liberty to make a living as an academic Marxist theoretician. They got a pretty good deal as far as I can see. There are many heroic figures on both the left and right (especially the left) from the war and post war years, certainly many of them both in their intellectual capacity and physical bravery in the war and dedication to their country and its people, make the current bunch look like pygmies. Milliband is not among their number, though his kids are definitely pygmies. On second thoughts don't bother this is a football forum not a platform to pursue redundant dialectic.
It would be nice if some of these left-wing 'men of the people' actually did a days work in the real world rather than be feather-bedded with 'researcher jobs' and a nice safe seat in Ecky-Thump Land...
There are more and more professional politicians on both sides these days, I'm afraid. Start off life with 'impartial' parents in the the civil service, become student activists at university, before a string of these researcher-type roles whilst waiting for that golden ticket that is a safe seat.
The problem isn't that democracy is dead or fake but that no one gives a **** anymore. Having had the misfortune to have lived in and visited countries under fascist military dictatorships and having unfortunately relatives in the BNP, EDL, English Democrats and the late unlamented International Third Position I do give a ****. Btw I'm half crippled by the amount of heavy manual work I've had to do in my lifetime just to survive.
It would be nice if some of these professional footballers actually did a days work in the real world rather than be feather-bedded with incredible contracts and a nice safe job in West London...
If they spent as much time representing their constituents as they do feathering their own nests perhaps they wouldn't be thought of as lowly. When they can make 20 times their MP salaries with outside 'work' they are taking the piss. Their jobs should be full-time on a higher salary with no outside work, then perhaps we would get MPs that actually gave a damn about their role and really represent the people, not their sponsors...
Wow, some people will stoop to almost anything to make a point, it seems. For one thing, you unload your views and then close by making it clear that you're not interested in anyone else's. Worse, along the way you write a pretty breathtaking slur: "they forgot to bring his mother and sister with him". Presumably because you're not a fan of Ralph Milliband's politics, you make his father out to be a man so careless that he would leave his wife and daughter exposed to the risk of being carted off the gas chambers. You seem to know your history so I assume that your reworking of the Milliband family history is a deliberate distortion in order to discredit the person you're writing about. It's particularly nasty because you're misrepresenting a tough decision made at a time when people escaping the Nazis often had to make very difficult decisions about their families, finances and livelihoods. Horrible stuff.
Your probably right, though I didn't think about it as deeply as you did. No racist slur intended, though I do find 50% of a family fleeing horrible threat strange, and even odder that they then decide not to return to their own liberated country later (though the strong Belgian fascist movement may have something to do with this). I have no problem with Milliband senior's politics, I have a problem with the claim that we would be digging potatoes or dead without him, in particular. If this claim had been made of Bevan, Bevin, Attlee or others I could see the sense of it. Thanks for alerting me to my own carelessness.
With great respect sb, I've just finished reading 'The Holocaust-The Jewish Tragedy' by Martin Gilbert and trust me many people had to make 'strange' and terrible choices. And on the subject of returning back to their country, many many Jews were killed after liberation by fascist elements. The above isn't meant to belittle your comments, honestly. Just stating the facts as I've read them.
You're welcome. I'm able to draw on fairly striking similarities between the Milliband family and that of my wife's grandmother. Perhaps you'd find some of her choices strange also. She elected to remain in Manchester rather than return to her native Berlin, to the ghosts of the all the friends and relatives who hadn't managed to escape and to the memories of everything her family had lost. That sort of decision was not uncommon. Still, the UK gained a bloody good research scientist and specialist in geriatric medicine as a result of her decision so all's well that ends well, I guess. At least she wasn't a work shy **** like, as you allege, Ralph Milliband was.
