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Summer clear-out

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by humanbeingincroydon, May 3, 2014.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Usually I'd wait until a couple of weeks after the season to gauge the Not606ers for their opinion of the squad, but this season has been so diabolical I've been holding off on this since early April. So with that in mind, for members of the first team squad, every player should be marked with STAY, GO or LOAN:

    GOALKEEPERS
    Hugo Lloris
    Brad Friedel
    Heurelho Gomes (out of contract at the end of the season)
    Jordan Archer

    DEFENDERS
    Jan Vertonghen
    Younes Kaboul (out of contract at the end of the season)
    Kyle Walker
    Michael Dawson
    Vlad Chiriches
    Danny Rose
    Kyle Naughton
    Ezekiel Fryers
    Benoit Assou-Ekotto

    MIDFIELDERS
    Sandro
    Moussa Dembele
    Christian Eriksen
    Paulinho
    Aaron Lennon
    Andros Townsend
    Erik Lamela
    Nacer Chadli
    Gylfi Sigurdsson
    Etienne Capoue
    Nabil Bentaleb
    Lewis Holtby
    Tom Carroll
    Iago Falque
    Jake Livemore
    Ryan Mason

    FORWARDS
    Emmanuel Adebayor (clause in his contract means his wages double this summer)
    Roberto Soldado
    Harry Kane

    Meanwhile, in the case of players not in our first team squad, the options are STAY, GO, LOAN or FIRST TEAM

    GOALKEEPERS
    Lawrence Vigouroux
    Jonathan Miles

    DEFENDERS
    Milos Veljkovic
    Kevin Stewart
    Grant Hall
    Bongani Khumalo
    Dominic Ball
    Alexander McQueen
    Conor Oglivie

    MIDFIELDERS
    Alex Pritchard
    Christian Ceballos
    Tomislav Gomelt
    Ryan Fredericks
    Laste Dombaxe
    Kenneth McEvoy
    Darren McQueen
    Joshua Onomah
    Harry Winks
    Giancarlo Gallifuoco
    Rúben Lameiras

    FORWARDS
    John Obika
    Shaquille Coulthirst
    Cameron Lancaster
    Souleymane Coulibaly
     
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  2. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    GOALKEEPERS
    Hugo Lloris ............... would love him to stay but he'll be off imo
    Brad Friedel ............... stay as a coach
    Heurelho Gomes (out of contract at the end of the season)....should go and play
    Jordan Archer....no idea

    DEFENDERS
    Jan Vertonghen....will go and I can't wait....complete twat imo
    Younes Kaboul (out of contract at the end of the season)....would like him to stay but fitness is a real problem so will be gone
    Kyle Walker....want him to stay
    Michael Dawson....think he has to accept being a squad player if he is to stay...club will choose to sell
    Vlad Chiriches...will stay
    Danny Rose...will be sold
    Kyle Naughton...couldn't be given away
    Ezekiel Fryers...will go on loan
    Benoit Assou-Ekotto...will be sold

    MIDFIELDERS
    Sandro....will stay IF manager goes
    Moussa Dembele....sold
    Christian Eriksen...stay
    Paulinho....sold
    Aaron Lennon...stay
    Andros Townsend...stay
    Erik Lamela....stay
    Nacer Chadli...stay
    Gylfi Sigurdsson....sold
    Etienne Capoue....stay
    Nabil Bentaleb....stay
    Lewis Holtby...sold
    Tom Carroll...sold
    Iago Falque...no idea
    Jake Livemore....sold
    Ryan Mason...sold

    FORWARDS
    Emmanuel Adebayor (clause in his contract means his wages double this summer)...won't be able to sell so stay
    Roberto Soldado...club won't take the huge loss so will stay
    Harry Kane...stay

    Meanwhile, in the case of players not in our first team squad, the options are STAY, GO, LOAN or FIRST TEAM

    GOALKEEPERS
    Lawrence Vigouroux....no idea
    Jonathan Miles....ditto

    DEFENDERS
    Milos Veljkovic...ditto
    Kevin Stewart....ditto
    Grant Hall...ditto
    Bongani Khumalo...loan
    Dominic Ball...no idea
    Alexander McQueen...loan
    Conor Oglivie...no idea

    MIDFIELDERS
    Alex Pritchard....1st team squad
    Christian Ceballos...no idea
    Tomislav Gomelt...ditto
    Ryan Fredericks....1st team squad
    Laste Dombaxe...no idea
    Kenneth McEvoy...no idea
    Darren McQueen...loan
    Joshua Onomah...no idea
    Harry Winks...no idea
    Giancarlo Gallifuoco....no idea
    Rúben Lameiras...1st team squad

    FORWARDS
    John Obika...1st team squad
    Shaquille Coulthirst...loan
    Cameron Lancaster...loan
    Souleymane Coulibaly...loan
     
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  3. PowerSpurs

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    GOALKEEPERS
    Hugo Lloris ............... stay
    Brad Friedel ............... Go
    Heurelho Gomes (out of contract at the end of the season)....Stay
    Jordan Archer....Stay

    DEFENDERS
    Jan Vertonghen....Stay
    Younes Kaboul (out of contract at the end of the season)....Stay
    Kyle Walker....stay
    Michael Dawson....sell
    Vlad Chiriches...stay
    Danny Rose...stay
    Kyle Naughton...stay
    Ezekiel Fryers...stay
    Benoit Assou-Ekotto...sell

    MIDFIELDERS
    Sandro....stay
    Moussa Dembele....stay
    Christian Eriksen...stay
    Paulinho....stay
    Aaron Lennon...stay
    Andros Townsend...stay
    Erik Lamela....stay
    Nacer Chadli...stay
    Gylfi Sigurdsson....stay
    Etienne Capoue....stay
    Nabil Bentaleb....stay
    Lewis Holtby...stay
    Tom Carroll...stay
    Iago Falque...sell
    Jake Livemore....sell
    Ryan Mason...sell

    FORWARDS
    Emmanuel Adebayor (clause in his contract means his wages double this summer)...sell
    Roberto Soldado...stay
    Harry Kane...stay

    Meanwhile, in the case of players not in our first team squad, the options are STAY, GO, LOAN or FIRST TEAM

    Mostly no idea on the U-21s

    Alex Pritchard....1st team squad

    If I've got my arithmetic and ages right that would mean we would need to buy a centre half and a striker which is enough I think
     
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  4. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    BAE- out.
    Rose - out.

    Veljkovic - loan (big opportunity this season to develop is wasted) .
    Carroll - PL loan.
    Pritchard - loan to league below.
    Ceballos - stay (IF Spurs will play 4-3-3 at some time) .
    Falque - sell (too late for him now) .
    Obika - ditto.

    Other Academy kids - loan where possible.
     
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  5. Can't be arsed going through the whole list.

    Who stays and who goes will depend almost entirely on who we bring in as our next manager. If Sherwood stays, we are ****ed.

    If we get a recognised quality manager in, I think we'll keep whoever we want to keep, including Lloris, Vertonghen, Walker, Sandro. Lamela, etc.

    The players I don't think can hack it with us (if Levy has ambitions of top 4) are: Dawson, Naughton, Rose, Ekotto, Siggy, Dembele, Kane. The juries out for me re LOLdado; I'd want to see how he can perform under a decent manager who knows how to set up the team to play to its, and his, strengths, before casting any stones.

    As for the rest, I'd like to see them sold, but that will all depend on who we are able to bring in and what funds, if any, are going to be made available. We need a massive shake-up, but I doubt that we can afford it.
     
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  6. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    GOALKEEPERS
    Hugo Lloris - STAY
    Brad Friedel - GO
    Heurelho Gomes (out of contract at the end of the season) - GO
    Jordan Archer - STAY

    DEFENDERS
    Jan Vertonghen - STAY
    Younes Kaboul (out of contract at the end of the season) - GO
    Kyle Walker - STAY
    Michael Dawson - GO
    Vlad Chiriches - STAY
    Danny Rose - GO
    Kyle Naughton - GO
    Ezekiel Fryers - STAY
    Benoit Assou-Ekotto - STAY

    MIDFIELDERS
    Sandro - STAY
    Moussa Dembele - GO
    Christian Eriksen - STAY
    Paulinho - GO
    Aaron Lennon - STAY
    Andros Townsend - STAY
    Erik Lamela - STAY
    Nacer Chadli - STAY
    Gylfi Sigurdsson - STAY
    Etienne Capoue - STAY
    Nabil Bentaleb - LOAN
    Lewis Holtby - GO
    Tom Carroll - STAY
    Iago Falque - GO
    Jake Livemore - GO
    Ryan Mason - LOAN

    FORWARDS
    Emmanuel Adebayor (clause in his contract means his wages double this summer) - STAY
    Roberto Soldado - GO
    Harry Kane - LOAN
     
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  7. Thanks RCL - just saved me the effort as I agree with almost all of this and the reasons given.
    One change however, is that I would like us to keep Holtby. (And yes, I would probably prefer to keep Benny - but only as a support LB - his international experience would be useful especially if we have a EL campaign to contend with)

    One things for sure - this summer is likely to see a load more upheaval and just hope that any changes happen sooner rather than later.
     
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  8. totsfan

    totsfan Well-Known Member

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    Agree with Remember Colin Lee,except Archer,stay and Rose,stay,and Paulinho stay
     
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  9. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    I can't believe that people want to see more wholesale changes in the squad. Most of the changes above imply 12 out and seven in. Are you all mad?
     
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  10. Not sure it's as much about 'want' as about 'expect'.
    For me, I cannot see Vertonghen and Paulinho staying around, or Lloris for that matter.
     
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  11. I think most answers in this thread (and elsewhere) are provided on a "wishful thinking" basis.

    We all know that we'll end up keeping and trying to play players who simply should not be in a top 4 side, hence the reason why most of us will forever be pessimistic regarding our chances of ever getting there, again.
     
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  12. NSIS

    NSIS Well-Known Member

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    Difficult to know where to start. Naughton, Rose, Dawson. Most definitely get rid of. We need to lighten up on midfield players. Who goes would very much depend on who the new manager is and who he wants to keep. Some players, most of whom have been mentioned, may demand a move anyway. After this season, you could hardly blame them. I very much doubt that the current reality even vaguely resembles the vision they were sold.
     
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  13. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    This.

    I know we won't sell as many as I said, but in reality we need to.

    We will probably sell 2-3 and bring in 2-3. That won't be enough imo.
     
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  14. yidokev

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    GOALKEEPERS
    Hugo Lloris - STAY
    Brad Friedel - GO
    Heurelho Gomes (out of contract at the end of the season) - GO
    Jordan Archer - LOAN

    DEFENDERS
    Jan Vertonghen - GO (not interested)
    Younes Kaboul (out of contract at the end of the season) - STAY
    Kyle Walker - STAY
    Michael Dawson - STAY (crap but cares)
    Vlad Chiriches - STAY
    Danny Rose - STAY
    Kyle Naughton - GO
    Ezekiel Fryers - LOAN
    Benoit Assou-Ekotto - GO

    MIDFIELDERS
    Sandro - STAY
    Moussa Dembele - STAY
    Christian Eriksen - STAY
    Paulinho - GO (I would drive him to any destination)
    Aaron Lennon - STAY
    Andros Townsend - STAY
    Erik Lamela - GO
    Nacer Chadli - STAY
    Gylfi Sigurdsson - STAY
    Etienne Capoue - GO
    Nabil Bentaleb - LOAN
    Lewis Holtby - STAY
    Tom Carroll - LOAN
    Iago Falque - GO
    Jake Livemore - GO (swap him for huddlestone)
    Ryan Mason - GO

    FORWARDS
    Emmanuel Adebayor (clause in his contract means his wages double this summer) - STAY
    Roberto Soldado - GO
    Harry Kane - LOAN

    Meanwhile, in the case of players not in our first team squad, the options are STAY, GO, LOAN or FIRST TEAM

    GOALKEEPERS
    Lawrence Vigouroux
    Jonathan Miles

    DEFENDERS
    Milos Veljkovic
    Kevin Stewart
    Grant Hall
    Bongani Khumalo
    Dominic Ball
    Alexander McQueen
    Conor Oglivie

    MIDFIELDERS
    Alex Pritchard
    Christian Ceballos
    Tomislav Gomelt
    Ryan Fredericks
    Laste Dombaxe
    Kenneth McEvoy
    Darren McQueen
    Joshua Onomah
    Harry Winks
    Giancarlo Gallifuoco
    Rúben Lameiras

    FORWARDS
    John Obika
    Shaquille Coulthirst
    Cameron Lancaster
    Souleymane Coulibaly
     
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  15. vimhawk

    vimhawk Well-Known Member

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    Of course there are many that criticise wholesale changes then say we should do exactly that. Probably the same people who want our managers sacked and then when they get sacked say Levy doesn't give mangers enough of a chance.
     
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  16. bigsmithy9

    bigsmithy9 Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes I just want to say....Exterminate! Exterminate!!!!
    Our players could manage to send Dr Who off his rocker!.....and I haven't even mentioned the managers!
     
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  17. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    I thought of including the coaching staff, but on reflection that would be pointless - Ramsey and Parks are the only ones who deserve to stay.
     
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  18. BajanSpur

    BajanSpur Well-Known Member

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    GOALKEEPERS
    Hugo Lloris.......KEEP
    Brad Friedel.......Coaching position beckons
    Heurelho Gomes....GO

    DEFENDERS
    Jan Vertonghen......KEEP
    Younes Kaboul......is becoming a liability, GET RID
    Kyle Walker........KEEP
    Michael Dawson......KEEP in reserve
    Vlad Chiriches.......KEEP
    Danny Rose.......No more improvement expected, limited talent, GET RID
    Kyle Naughton......Someone give him an office job before he hurts himself.
    Ezekiel Fryers.....LOAN
    Benoit Assou-Ekotto......NEEDED

    MIDFIELDERS
    Sandro.......NEEDED
    Moussa Dembele.....KEEP
    Christian Eriksen......KEEP
    Paulinho.....An enigma., I thought we'd get more from him
    Aaron Lennon.....KEEP
    Andros Townsend.....KEEP
    Erik Lamela......WHO KNOWS
    Nacer Chadli......KEEP
    Gylfi Sigurdsson......SELL
    Etienne Capoue......KEEP
    Nabil Bentaleb.......KEEP
    Lewis Holtby......SELL
    Tom Carroll......KEEP
    Jake Livemore......SELL

    FORWARDS
    Emmanuel Adebayor......If no consistency by January 2015, SELL
    Roberto Soldado.....I'd pay good money to see him gone. SOMEBODY PLEASE TAKE HIM AWAY.
    Harry Kane.......KEEP
     
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  19. kcspurs

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    GOALKEEPERS
    Hugo Lloris stay
    Brad Friedel dont mind
    Heurelho Gomes (out of contract at the end of the season) he can leave
    Jordan Archer stay

    DEFENDERS
    Jan Vertonghen stay unless we get stupid offer for him
    Younes Kaboul (out of contract at the end of the season) he can leave
    Kyle Walker dont mind
    Michael Dawson sqaud player
    Vlad Chiriches stay
    Danny Rose dont mind. dont like him tbh
    Kyle Naughton def stay. hes done well since hes been playing
    Ezekiel Fryers stay
    Benoit Assou-Ekotto

    MIDFIELDERS
    Sandro stay
    Moussa Dembele sell
    Christian Eriksen def stay at all cost.
    Paulinho dont mind
    Aaron Lennon sell
    Andros Townsend stay only because hes young
    Erik Lamela stay
    Nacer Chadli dont mind if he stays or goes
    Gylfi Sigurdsson sells
    Etienne Capoue sells
    Nabil Bentaleb stays
    Lewis Holtby stay
    Tom Carroll stay
    Iago Falque stay
    Jake Livemore sell to hull
    Ryan Mason

    FORWARDS
    Emmanuel Adebayor (clause in his contract means his wages double this summer) sell
    Roberto Soldado stay
    Harry Kane stay
     
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  20. bigsmithy9

    bigsmithy9 Well-Known Member

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    Tea lady #1. Keep.
    Tea lady #2. Transfer to Chelsea.
    Tea lady #3. Pay increase.
    Pitch waterer. Slow down,son!
    Toilet cleaner. Are you on a go slow? Speed up or be transferred to Millwall......
     
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