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Suarez News (#ONTOPIC)

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by jaffaSlot, Feb 11, 2013.

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When will Suarez leave?

  1. Pre-contract, gone 1st day

  2. Gone in July

  3. Gone in August

  4. Gone on transfer deadline day

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  1. Sharpe*

    Sharpe* Senior Member

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    Of course. I would however question why he publicly on multiple occasions stated he wanted to leave.
     
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  2. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Do you have quotes for that? There may be, I just haven't seen them.
     
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  3. mighty_stevie_g

    mighty_stevie_g Well-Known Member

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    It's more like 'not sure i can stay' rather than 'I want to leave'
     
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  4. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    @Foredeckdave - like the rest of the country regular house prices where effected by the economic downturn but to suggest there is going to be a crash to the extent that a company valued at over a billion is going to lose enough value for a club the size of liverpool (300mil) to be valued at higher than us is simply ridiculous. You think Arsenal are going to lose over 700million in value due to an astronomical property crash? No. The whole idea that a property crash could take that much value off of Arsenal is just flawed from the start.

    On top of that some economists have been predicting a property crash in london prior to the recession and so far the effect hasn't been anything like what was predicted. Other economists disagree completely - i remember it was discussed quite a lot when i was at university studying economics. As a young london home owner im probably biased in my thinking, but i know several people who invest fairly heavily in property in the city and it's not something that people seem overly concerned with. Thus my reaction to your confidence that this is the only possible outcome.
     
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  5. Sharpe*

    Sharpe* Senior Member

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    He has stated a number of times he would consider a move if a "big team" (thanks Luis) like Real Madrid made a bid which is as big a come and get me a plea you will ever see which has been quoted above plus it is official he wants to talk to Arsenal. Players who want to stay don't tend to do that!
     
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  6. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    I honestly don't mind if he stays or goes but am surprised by the reactions of a lot of people. Suarez has actually said very little. He has been hounded by the press and other managers etc calling for him never to play for the club again like it's their business and not ours. He's had twice the coverage of Bale and Rooney put together, every bit of body language analysed, criticised. If he does go to Arsenal after all this he'd be a fool.
     
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  7. Luis said he wanted to join Barca or Real pretty much as soon as he joined us, hardly a surprise if he did actually go to one of them. Going to Arsenal would be hard to take though.
     
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  8. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    It's always difficult if you lose a player to a rival - if Fabregas goes to Utd i'll be devestated even if he isnt an Arsenal player anymore! And i HATE seeing RVP in a Utd shirt!

    So i can see why it's difficult to think of Suarez going to Arsenal, especially at a time when obviously Liverpool fans feel the club is more stable and ready to build for the future. And when Arsenal last season occupied that 4th spot that is Liverpools next aim.

    But solely looking at it from the perspective of Suarez thinking about his career, and assuming his ultimate goal is to be at either Barca or Madrid, doing 2-3 years at Arsenal competing in the CL against the top teams, he gets a better platform to show off his ability. Add in that IF Arsenal where to sign Suarez it would be a turning point in spending policy, he might think over the next 2 or 3 years he might even pick up a bit of silverware and/or be part of quite an exciting team before hopefully moving on to his final destination at Madrid or Barca. He seems quite career minded and i think he is always looking for the next step up. At his age he still has time to move to Arsenal and then onto another big club in his prime. So i can see why he considers it a viable move and a good step forward.
     
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  9. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Where's the evidence he is going to talk to Arsenal? The fact they triggered some sort of clause means the club has to tell him about the bid and he will be free to talk but where's it say he is going to?
     
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  10. Owen did similar to us; went to Real and Newcastle before rocking up at Man Utd.

    I don't share your view in LS going to Arsenal for two or three years. If he went, he'd be thinking of moving on again next summer or as soon as possible anyway. He wants one of the Spanish giants, that is his dream.

    Of course, it all depends what is in Luis' head. does he think he'd be better off going to Arsenal? Or should he stay at Liverpool who, as you put it, are building something? Remember that he is settled at Anfield too, that won't necessarily be the case at The Emirates.

    PS...not that I expect him to be at Anfield next year, just saying for the sake of argument <ok>
     
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  11. Sharpe*

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    To be fair it is not from the horses mouth and is from the press. I would say no smoke without fire though. Right bed time!
     
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  12. Is that a pun at his buck teeth? <whistle>
     
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  13. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Ok you know and everybody who disagrees is wrong. If you have studied economics then you just may have some understanding of the concept of economic risk. Now take that concept and employ it in an evaluation of what happened in Japan and in particular Tokyo. Now look at the similarities that exit between the UK economy and London.

    Whilst you are doing that look at the valuation of Arsenal and then calculate just what percentage of the is related to property valuation.

    The ONE guarantee that you have in economics is that any inflated market will rectify. Tokyo wasn't supposed to happen and warnings were ignored by people like you. I rest my case
     
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  14. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    Dave, the London property prices will remain high until the large companies start moving out, then the rest of the property market will start to fall.
     
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  15. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    The prices will remain high until demand for them drops. That's the only constant. There are many many places around the UK where there are no large companies, in fact no companies and property prices are extremely high due to other factors but the one constant is demand and there can be many reasons why demand falls.
     
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  16. Magic Ted

    Magic Ted Talulah

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    Morning lads. Arsenal are **** and we've won more. Have a good day!
     
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  17. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Diego, Of course there will be a knock-on effect. What I was attempting to highlight was the dramatic effect that would result for those clubs (and Arsenal in particular) who's valuation is heavily biased by their property valuations.
     
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  18. mighty_stevie_g

    mighty_stevie_g Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>

    It's ok, we've moved on to economics it seems
     
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  19. Can we go back to bickering? <laugh>
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    yeah HE'S ON HIS WAY TO LONDON LADS.....














    (along with the rest of the squad on their way home)

    stand by for the press FRENZY!!!!
     
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