I'd have Suarez at Utd. Mainly cos SAF would do to him what he did to Ronaldo - get rid of the diving, the acting and the bullshit and actually turn him into the world class player he has the potential to be. He's a **** on the pitch, but so are most footballers - Suarez just has less control over his inner dickhead than most footballers. Also at Utd he wouldn't be the big fish so he wouldn't get the same kind of indulgence and tolerance for his 'indiscretions'. Had he bitten that bloke whilst playing for Utd, we'd have done what we did with Cantona and suspended him before the FA even looked at the incident. As soon as he arrives at a club which stops indulging his every whim I think he'll deliver at a great level. ----------RVP Suarez - Rooney - Valencia Nuff said.
FFS he is a f**king rat faced player who cheats, dives,makes racist comments and has been found GUILTY, bites players ... No we want a player like that like we want the plague...
You say it like he attacked someone walking down the street Sky, conveniently missing out lots of crucial information to the story. It isn't really the same as racially abusing someone at work, as you know only too well.
A bit of honesty at last Swarbs is it me or are Matth and Antonio a bit dumb (understatement)? P.S. Ronaldo dived until the day he left, infact he still does now. Yeah not as bad as he once did, but if you're completely honest with yourself (and watch all our games) it is clear that Suarez and his diving has decreased considerably.
I don't racially abuse people at work Suarez loves a bit of controversy, and so what? If you look back many great players were the same.... People like Gazza, Cantona, Maradona, Zidane etc etc etc... At least it gives us something to discuss
Evra was racially abused at work mate, you know what I meant. Cantona attacked someone WHILE being abused, a fact conveniently left out when it's used as comparison. He was also banned for the rest of the season by his employers, also completely overlooked when used in comparison. The absolute polar opposite to what Liverpool did in fact. Anyway, back to your question, a player of Suarez's undoubted ability would of course be welcome at United but Suarez himself? A definite no. Like I said earlier, one sorry out of his mouth would have changed a hell of a lot.
Yeah I agree. At the time I didn't stick up for Suarez one bit, and I still don't with regards to that. But most of the other **** is purely down to reputation, nothing else. The good thing for us is he thrives from being a villain - so **** it, long may it continue With regards to Cantona getting abused - that happens to most players about 25 times a game. They don't turn into Bruce Lee over it. However, I did thoroughly enjoy watching the incident with Cantona (funny ****). I admire his talent too, and his 'don't give a ****' attitude.
I can't stand him. It's not just about the goal the other week, that's just one of many indescretions. As chief said all he and the club had to do was apologise.. Re the goal if it had of been in a semi vs Chelsea most people wouldn't of cared. It's more the fact it was a non league club done out of money and their players having dream day out at anfield. Paolo di canio was a bit of a c unt of a player and a bit mad, but he did some of the most sporting gestures I ve ever witnessed in the game. If saurez had half that level of integrity then it wouldn't be so bad.
This, to my mind, is the main problem with Suarez. No matter what he does, Liverpool pretty much always kowtow to him, protect him, coddle him and generally indulge him. So you end up with a player who has a completely distorted view of the world. Much like Balotelli and the constant indulgence he gets from Mancini at City. Personally I think the reason there was no apology to Evra was that Dalglish and others got in his ear and told him to turn this into a big controversy, hoping for some PR gains with the fans or some sort of bad light to be cast on Utd and Evra whilst desperately trying to avoid losing face. By the time they'd realised how badly they had ****ed it up it was too late to back out and they had to keep spoon feeding Suarez this bull**** about how it was all a big Utd conspiracy against him and Liverpool. Probably doesn't help that so many LFC fans lap up and perpetuate the same myth about these 'dark forces' that are all against them. Suarez does seem like the kind of emotional player who always needs to be loved, so he'll happily play the villain as long as Liverpool fans and the club keep supporting him, and even encouraging him to do so. Like I said before, one or two seasons with SAF and he'd be a changed man.
I see what you're saying. But how is Suarez to blame when he clearly realised he handled it and smashed it into the net out of frustration? Surely the ref should be the one that get's the stick?? Plus it wasn't that incident that knocked Mansfield out. That made it 2-0. It is impossible to say what would have happened if the goal was ruled out and they equalised - we would have gone hell for leather to get the winner (and probably got it) instead of sitting back and taking the 2-1. Like I said this whole hand ball thing has been MASSIVELY taken out of context - quite funny really!
I agree with this of course, I am one of the ones who said at the time it appeared an accident and he looked like he expected the ref to blow. That he didn't isn't down to him and I wouldn't really expect him to own up as it was accidental. It's hard on Mansfield but those are the breaks. The truth is though, he does dive, a lot, and he does snide foul, a lot. And this is why everything keeps coming back up because he doesn't give a ****, which is why he is so utterly disliked.
Ruff if you compare how he was when he joined to how he is now there is a huge difference. I've hardly seen any dives from him recently, infact none whatsoever. Ronaldo took about 2 seasons to even start to reduce his diving.... I would never expect a Utd fan to like a Liverpool player. I guess the media attention on Suarez has taken the heat off the cheating little **** Nani (and Young)
Well, Nani not playing has taken care of that and I would say Ferguson has has taken care of Young. No sign of any diving from him so far. I can't lie, if somone else had handled the ball before scoring there would not have been anywhere near this **** storm but the hassle he gets is self inflicted. I feel he's ahell of a lot further to go before anyone starts thinking he's reformed character. The reason Bale and Young and Nani and Ronaldo aren't/weren't as vilified is they didn't also have the dirty little stamps and ankle breakers in their armoury!
Maybe if he didn't do silly **** like that pathetic dive against Stoke (that has to be up there as one of the worst attempts to con a ref I have ever seen) then he wouldn't be such an easy target for the media, they barely get time to finish talking about one incident before he gives them something else to make a headline out of.
He'll never be a reformed character - I personally don't want him to be. I like the bite (no pun intended) he has to his game. I can't name a player in the PL with more desire and passion for the game, yeah he can go over board (no pun intended) at times - but is that such a big deal? I certainly don't lose any sleep over it, and I'm guessing you don't either. Quite simply, if he wasn't such an outstanding player these threads, media etc. wouldn't even exist.
Bull****. There are loads of passionate players desperate to win games that don't feel the need to dive and sly stamp there way to victory
Barton was always in the media spotlight too, are you saying that was just because he was an outstanding player?
Barton was mainly due to his antics off the pitch, always getting arrested etc.. No-one really gave a flying **** what he did on the pitch, I can recall an incident against Arsenal, other than that I can't remember too much about his media attention.
