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Steve Bruce

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by MattTheTiger, Jan 17, 2014.

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In regards to league positions and signings, was Steve Bruce a failure at Sunderland?

  1. yes

  2. no

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  1. MattTheTiger

    MattTheTiger Well-Known Member

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    Hi all, nothing malicious, we've just had a nonce post on our bored saying how steve bruce is this that and whatever and I'm looking at you guys to provide me with an honest opinion as I really don't think you all are as silly as this fella.

    Just a yes or no answer. Taking into consideration all of bruces signings for you guys and all he did, would you say that he was a complete failure for you guys.

    I'd like you to think about everything objectively and as a full picture as opposed to a couple of bad patches as we all know there were some one very bad one obvs).

    Good luck for the remainder of the season!
     
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  2. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    Not a complete failure, that sounds harsh, he did have his moments 0-3 vs Chelsea the pinnacle. But he did fail and we made the right choice in sacking him

    The summer before he left he ruined the good team he had. Put us back to square one, and worst of all he gave all the ****e he bought long-term contracts meaning we were stuck with them for ages on high wages.

    A few will be off in the summer, thankfully..
     
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    Deleted # Well-Known Member

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    He was good until January, then **** until May. He was good until January, then **** until May. His last season, **** until November then sacked, for being **** for 10 months, not for being a fat Geordie bastard, which he now is <ok>
     
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  4. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    Another thing to note:

    The season we finished 10th:

    On the 22nd of January we were 6th place on 37 points after 24 games played

    At the end of the season we finished 10th place on 47 points

    10 points from the last 14 games is shocking, considering where we were (and the fact we were knocked out in both cup competitions in the rounds we entered them, a theme under Bruce)
     
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  5. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    He was a relative success until he became a failure. Took us forwards and then took us backwards.
     
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  6. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    I was a supporter on here for ages, but we were so crap for so long he really had to go. A qualified fail, but certainly not all bad.
     
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  7. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    He was a tad unlucky with the way key players jumped ship at key times, bit I have voted yes because he was found wanting when the going got tough..
     
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  8. concrete tony

    concrete tony Well-Known Member

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    He left our club in complete turmoil.

    We had no established centre forward when he left.

    We had no left back at the club when he left. He bought very similar midfielders slow and small.

    He spent a lot of money on gave out big wages. Since Bruce the club has had to totally restructure.

    He had some limited success but a lot of our current plight is down to recovering from Bruce. In my opinion.

    He may get it right for Hull. Good luck to him
     
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  9. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    He built a canny team, one that had real potential, then dismantled it.

    A strange fella Steve Bruce, just when you think he's doing ok, he finds a way to prove you wrong.
     
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  10. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    Aye but he's still a **** & a Geordie one at that.
    Of course, that's why he was sacked, nowt to do with the fact we only won 2 home games in 12 months.
     
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  11. Brian Storm

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    Should have been an ok option. He did well until 6 months of lunacy hammered the nails in his own coffin,
     
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  12. Shameless

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    To be fair, he was alos unlucky with injuries, and yet, many of those injuries occured in training (wtf?) and people being rushed back to the field too soon.

    His tactical substitutions were dreadful at times, if not bizarre. When we had Kenwynne Jones and Bent up front we were a scary team with a leaky defence, then we secured the defence, brought in Gyan as a panic buy on 31st August and sold Bent in January. After that, the team was in complete disarray. No he didn't get it right and his tenure at Sunderland was not successful.
     
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  13. Neil

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    And even 10th flattered us. As I remember it, it was only a few fortunate results in other games on the last day of the season that went our way, otherwise I think we could have been anywhere down to about 15th.

    There were some good times under Bruce, but some shockingly bad times too. At times we had a good team under him, but it never seemed stable. His overall transfer spend was probably pretty low, as we sold a lot of players for profit, some that we didn't want to, but he left us with a legacy of overpaid mediocre players on long contracts. Overall, yes he failed.

    He's having a good time and doing well with Hull at the moment. If he follows previous form, get ready for that to change.
     
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  14. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    Agree with all of the above really. Put some decent teams together but something was wrong as he couldn't keep them together and build. Good players came like Cana, Bent, Gyan etc but wanted to leave as soon as they got here and worked with him.

    Great first 4 or 5 months of a season but appalling January to May stats and not just with us. He was sacked because of a terrible record over 10 months and a he tried to mask that by crying about us hating Geordies.

    His Newcastle roots only came into play as a stick to beat him with in the end, not as a reason we wanted him out. That said, it was always very strange that despite our form at any time, he always seemed to make a total **** up of derby games. However, after a 5-1 defeat at Sid James we backed and supported him afterwards. He still managed to bleat about us hating him because of his roots though.

    Master excuse maker and pointer of fingers at everyone but himself, I was delighted he was removed. He isn't a good EPL manager at all IMO but a decent enough Championship one. Stick with him and that's where Hull will end up.
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    When Rodger the Dodger retired it was Steve Bruce who bought his book of excuses ......... he'd rather look in a mirror than ever accept anything was his fault.

    He disgraced himself and the club when he announced he'd already picked out the song to be played, over the SOL tannoy, after we'd 'beaten' Newcastle.

    The Sunderland supporters backed him despite his roots yet that was thrown back in our faces when he was rightly sacked.

    He was responsible for some of the most cowardly football I've witnessed in 4 decades of support.
     
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  16. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Anyone ever needs reminded of how he got it wrong often.

    Away to Poyets Brighton in the cup.

    WTF kind of team is that



    Sunderland
    20 Westwood
    05 Brown
    11 Richardson
    29 Ferdinand
    06 Cattermole (Wickham 52)
    07 Larsson yellow card
    08 Gardner (Gyan 108)
    14 Colback
    15 Vaughan (Ji 83)
    27 Elmohamady
    28 Sessegnon
    Substitutes
    22 Mignolet,
    19 Bramble,
    40 Laing,
    26 Cook,
    03 Gyan,
    10 Wickham,



    He started with no strikers.
     
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  17. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    Wonder how many younger posters are busy right now trawling through old football books trying to find out who Rodger the Dodger is? Lol
     
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  18. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>

    Yeah I wondered about that!
     
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  19. Nordic

    Nordic Well-Known Member

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    In summary: Fat, pie eating Geordie bastard. He can fook right off, coz he was ****e. His daughter is a slapper and his son is a knob-heed. His best mate is a ****er, who wears a ****ers hat.

    As many have said he brought in many a great player, but couldn't manage them and thus couldn't keep hold of them. Good management is about doing the latter, not the former. If he sticks to Tesco, rather than Harrods, he might stand a chance of managing those he brings in, but it is debatable. At times we played some great footie and I'll never forget 3-0 away at Chelsea, but if it weren't for PDC last April I'd have found it very difficult to forget 1-5 at Sid James'. Where he completely bottled it, the twat.

    Ultimately he couldn't handle the pressure of managing ourselves and panic bought a load of average players with average/losing mentalities on ridiculous money - this has been his legacy which almost completely fukced us. Fortunately with Gus, and the potential to get rid of a lot of the dross this summer, we're looking like we might get away with it and come back fitter, stronger and better than ever.
     
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  20. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    Wonder if we could sign Billy Whizz this window though? :)
     
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