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Steve bruce out!

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by SwanseaMackem, Apr 23, 2011.

  1. blackcatsteve

    blackcatsteve Well-Known Member

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    Ok you say he has spent more than £50 million.

    But look at Everton, they havnt spent that (in 2 years anyway), but then they have not had to really. Moyes has been there for years, they have been in the PL for years, same as coyle at bolton, the team itself has been together for a number of years, and it only takes 2-3 buys a season (if that) to keep them ticking over, Bruce virtually bought a full new team/squad as the one Keane left just wasnt good enough in his eyes, which does cost money and lots of it, even the toon had the nucleus of a good squad, as they didnt sell and decimate it when they went down.

    £50mil in todays market isnt that bad tbh especially not for a whole new first team.
     
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  2. Poyet's Eleven

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    Yeah, I feel though with money Moyes would do VERY good, as well as Coyle. They made the best out of their situations, whereas Bruce has been fortunate to be able to spend large sums of money, without prevail.
     
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  3. jerseymackem

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    Bad run or no bad run, if we finish in the top 10 Bruce has to stay. There is a lot to be said for consistency, and I think that Bruce is a good manager. It would be very hard to find another who would be guaranteed success. People have said MON, but he's not really a big step forward from Bruce, and there's no guarantee the players will respond to him. If we finish on the second page, however, I think it may be time to say to Bruce thanks, but no thanks.
     
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  4. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    Sorry mate but your whole thesis is based inuendo and assumptions, unless we have the facts we can only assume, but Bent knobing his daughter played a big part in my assumption
     
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  5. blackcatsteve

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    my point is, they havnt had to spend 50 million in 2 seasons, as they already have the nucleus of a very good squad, and Elmander cost 11mil (not Coyle i know, but still Bolton), Billyadenof (sp) 15 mil, fellini £12mil ( i think), so its not like they havnt spent anything at all, its just they can add 1 or 2 quality players a season, as they have the nuclues, we didnt when bruce took over.
     
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  6. Poyet's Eleven

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    Good point, I would love to have our club set up like that, I just have my doubts that Bruce is the right man to take us to that stage.
     
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  7. blackcatsteve

    blackcatsteve Well-Known Member

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    For me, thats what they are trying to do, Ok he has bought some duds, luckily they didnt cost a lot and all managers buy duds now and again, but like i said, we have the youngest squad, so hopefully the vast majority of those will play for us for awhile, and grow into a good team, who knows each others game, and we can buy 1 or 2 quality players every season, just to keep us ticking over, and hopefully add quality to the squad.

    We are 90% safe now, i would say another win and that will be 100%, so give him another season, lets see who he brings in, and gets rid off, and see how we do next season, if things havnt improved any, then look at it again.
     
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  8. Poyet's Eleven

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    Yeah, I agree! Fellaini was 15 mill btw
     
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  9. mackem911

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    For me the major plus so far with Bruce in control has been transfer dealings.We have gone from being a relegation threatened side annually to mid-table (flirting with relegation) side without adding substantially, if at all to the club's debts.

    With or without Bruce it is difficult to see how we can move on to the next level if we are forced to adopt a sell before buying strategy in the Summer. If Mr Short is willing to continue funding the annual losses and make a reasonable budget available for new players what should we do? Stick with Brucie,who is unproven at a higher level or go for
    a more experienced manager who has already achieved success ?

    We shall see.
     
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  10. Steven Royston O'Neill

    Steven Royston O'Neill Well-Known Member

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    I think the Wigan win has lifted any threat from Bruce, lots of questions will still be asked and nswers needed and I'm sure Bruce will know how important next season is.

    If he had to sell before buying you would have to ask, "sell who to raise the type of funds needed", any answer weakens the squad and team.

    I see him being handed the 18/24 mil from Bent plus a further 10, or at least that would have been the plan to bring in one or two signings. Problem is now, we all know we need more than one or two, and thats just strikers.
     
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  11. Commachio

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    ****ing class rog, totally puts a different spin on it.
    everyone is guessing about bent, and rog says cos he's knobing bruce's daughter, haha
     
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  12. Schwerer Gustav

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  13. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    haha mate, he's not gonna come out and say, "when wor daz put i a transfer request like, i waz ower the moon like, the dirty little ****bags bangin me lassie, and i just couldntt see his mush nee more, waz a bit sceptical like at first, but hey man 24 mill, quinny made is do it"

    na mate, i'm taking the piss, no one knows the reason really.
     
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  14. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    When the story broke, there was a picture link published of Bent leaving a Brum hotel with her on his arm, it was on a weekend before he got his transfer request, she was smiling and the front of his trouser's looked like the last turkey in the shop dehydrated,
     
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  16. Steven Royston O'Neill

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