Standout Performance

I have said (I think I was on my own!!) he is and will be a very good player...Learning to adapt to the pace of football in the championship was always going to be a challenge...Another player (like Palmer) that needs decent players around him to shine..He's getting there!!

 

I thought he was terrific in the first half and said so, like the rest of the team not so good 2nd.

I agree about the pace of the English game compared to the French game, also the physicality.

For him and even maybe Palmer, we still need an organiser/leader/creater to keep these individual type players in check to make sure that the tracking of runners and protecting the defence is still carried out, far to often our midfield are caught out ahead of the ball when a move breaks down.

 

Palmer has 1 decent game, Massengo has his first ever decent 45minutes.
And someone mentions Iniesta.

OK neither will ever be an 'Iniesta' but I hope they're right about being decent in the Championship with better players around them.
I wonder if either would have played but for the injuries to Walsh, Williams, Paterson or even O'Dowda.
Anyway let's hope they turn it on tomorrow.

 

Agree about the Iniesta quote it's laughable but predictable.

Probably not if the 2 underlined were fit, for some bewildering reason.

The difference is even though I remain unconvinced by Massengo, he played at a good level for 45 minutes, but was then shutdown by a better midfield, he now has to at least maintain that level and even kick on. I would like to see more of Palmer in a far better coached midfield before I write him off. Paterson and Odowda are both wholly inconsistent, Odowda has had one good 45 minutes at QPR and Paterson has been hit and miss all season, although again if we had a midfield capable of covering his lack of midfield donkey work, we know he can be a game changer.

 

I do think (and have said for a while) that we do have some decent players in the squad, plenty with flair and potential, but we need workers/ grinders more of Kalas type in the team to make them shine..which I believe we don't have. or a decent team leader, I might add.
I do think we are close......and although I want to be, I'm still not totally convinced by Deano, but maybe he's learning and will get there with time..

 

Didn’t he have that chance at Swansea? I guess they thought that as well, then saw it’s flashes of good 15 minutes, then bad the rest, and only started using him as a bit part player

 

Swansea have lost 4 all season and never 2 in a row, not even close, why would they change what is essentially a winning team?

I would also like to point out that Palmer has a championship goal and an assist in the short game time he has had, whereas ODowda has 1 assist and no goals and Nagy has 1 goal and no assists in their far superior amount of game time.

I am not saying that he is the answer, Jesus it would take far more than him to sort our weak, slow, predictable, failing, disorganised and non creative midfield, but he is our player, we signed him for some indefinable reason (and those responsible should answer for that) and as recent selections prove, we are desperate and making it up on the hoof in the recent BCFC way.

My point is we have never been able to play him, Massengo, Nagy or Bakinson in a fully functioning midfield, whereas Paterson and Odowda have had that luxury and still ultimately failed.

I repeat the biggest question should be why is it Brentford with their lower wage bill and lower budget be far, far better than us in the transfer market and on the field, why have they signed quality and we have mainly signed too much crap or a proven goalscorer that we cannot supply with barely a single chance in the year that he has been with us.

 

Why did they change it by appointing Hourihane as his replacement this window then?
You said you would like to see him in a well coached good midfield. He was they wanted him, they got him then dropped him.
No idea why you’re highlighting other players, it’s Palmer we’re talking about. Nagy has more than scoring and assist to his game for one defence. O’Dowda should of left IMO when we had the chance to release him.

 

You are totally wrong in every part of that statement 1. They never dropped him, they were a winning side, he never broke into the side, isn't there a saying about changing a winning team?. 2. Hourihane was signed after he left. 3. They were saying that he was happy and they wanted him to stay, we initiated him being brought back.

I would say sack the people who signed him, oh hang one of them already has been sacked.

 

Yes Hourihane was brought in after him, that is how a replacement works?
You said why change a winning side, but in that case why is Hourihane playing?

 

The same Hourihane that has already scored 3 goals since joining? well that is interesting because he has replaced Korey Smith in the number 10 role and Smith has had to move back into midfield. Must have been a really difficult decision to make.

But hey yet again it brings into focus our dysfunctional transfer policy, Swansea manage to sign Hourihane who is ready to go and firing on all cylinders and we sign Angela Lansbury who has not been seen since his appearance on the roof.

 

I can't understand why I am being blamed for signing Palmer, it was LJ who publicly said he had the final say on signings and Ashton who publicly confirmed LJ's statement.

 

Do you like arguing?
You said you would like to see him in a far better coached midfield team. He had his chance in a far better coached midfield team and he was a bit part player.
If you don’t want to take my word for it, fine but this link shows the game time per match if you want to work it out.

https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=90836

You’re other comment was why change a winning team, well they did when they signed Hourihane who by the way when they signed him he had not scored any goals for them.
All your doing is pointing out the same player who has scored 3 in 3 justifies that Cooper knows what he’s doing.
Palmer being returned to us, freed up the loan intake to allow them to go and get Hourihane. Is that not what a replacement is?

 

Swansea sign Hourihane
We sign Lansbury.
Says it all.

Palmer played very little at Swansea because he wasn't good enough. No other reason.
Hourihane proves it. If your good enough you get selected.

 

As for your first comment pot/kettle and all that.

He was never in the team, they have only lost 4 games. But you seem to know what Cooper was thinking which is a talent.

The highlighted is actually true and guess what Swansea are going for promotion and improving their chances by signing quality players, something we have failed to do in more than 4 seasons, 4 seasons where we entered January in with a shout and never once enhanced our chances by signing quality, so along with the Brentford model is another lesson that needs to be taken on board.

So now you are saying that Swansea sent him back, I would like to see evidence of that.

 

That may well be correct but we misguidedly signed him for 3.5mil and a huge wage packet, we have very few fit players to play in midfield and the ones we do have fit and those that are no longer fit have already shown that they are not up to it, why not give him a chance? or shall we play even more players out of position than we already are?

I find it strange that somehow people believe I think he's the answer, all I am saying is he is our player and we a short of midfield players and he has been no worse than any of the other midfield players in the games that he has played in so far.

 

Where have I said they sent him back? I was saying they didn’t really play him.
He seems to have chances but never seems to grasp them.