It's actually the second movement he makes with his leg that does it. It WAS a red card. please log in to view this image
he never seen him till his legs are up beside if that is red then your GK should had seen a red for punching vidic in head like a boxer which was even more dangerous stop deluding yourself
Do you see his secondary kick? Look carefully I think you missed it. What about Rafael handball and Wellbeck's goal after non existent corner at SB.
There is no secondary kick, he is in mid-air, collides with the player and loses balance. Stop trying to wum.
!!!! welbeck goal was nothing wrong with it ... you are mixed up with another corner and so did we had penalty shouts .. so what if that was dangerous ,, then your GK should had seen red way before that for punching Vidic you had almost every bloody 50-50 decision ..did we get any foul in your half?
the guy is delusional .. trying to convince himself they win fair and square .. how pathetic is that?
If that's a red then the game might as well be non contact! You can't allow for someone entering from a blind side into your line of motion, and no player will ever be able t take a ball out if the air in case there is contact. I even think a Yellow would have been harsh, especially given that a Keeper can punch through a ball and make contact.
i wish one day .. that Real or Barca get punished by bad refereeing showing them a red card for such decision .. what is shocking is that those decision goes all the time in favor of those 2 clubs .. too much to be random ..
Completely agree with the OP's assessment. That's how I see it anyway. Unnecessary secondary force added through the initial infraction making it a clear red, rather than an unlucky one. He could have got a yellow if he'd withdrawn from the tackle after initial impact, but he doesn't, he pushes out with the foot. Stupid really. Why did he need to lash out like that? To stop the player running down the flank would be my guess, rather than trying to hurt him out of frustration.
What the hell are you guys talking about? Are trying to find some justification for a red that simply wasn't? Look at the contact, it forced his knee to his chest. Are you expecting his knee to stay at his chest all the way to the floor? His leg just extended back out after the initial impact and this is what you have misconstrued as some 'double kick'.
Take some advice from your manager. Either dont mention it, or assess it fairly. Referring to the potential rafael handball/penalty is a bit weak as that was in the semi-immediate aftermath of the incident in question: ie it shouldnt have happened. The fact is - Nani was unaware of Arbeloa's presence. His foot was high because he was trying to control to ball (incidenntally players have 'high' feet controlling balls all the time - only becomes dangerous play if there is an opponent there that the 'offender' is aware of. The secondary movement - who knows? Loss of balance, attempt to play the ball, could be anything. I'll be damned if the ref was actually aware of this secondary movement. He sent him off for the 'hig foot' - and given the occasion and the clear lack of any intent it is a scandalous decision. Incidentally, Id like to ask your opinion on what should have happened when the keeper punched vidic in the area? Or when Varane (I think) stopped a clear goalscoring opportunity in the first leg? Madrid are a class team, no question, and there is every possibility they could have beaten Man Utd with 11 men. The point is nobody will know what would have happened because one team were scandalously handicapped for nearly 40 minutes. It took every ounce of Ferguson's cunning and guile to match Madrid, there was no way that attack was being held out for 35 minutes with 10 men. Surely you can understand why everybody is angry?
What the hell are you talking about? Natural extension my arse. He's kicked out rather than attempted to retract the leg. It's bloody obvious from the footage. Man Utd should have had a pen. The keeper challenge I agree with you on, but that goes football wide, not just in this match. If you lean on a keeper at a corner, it's a foul, yet a keeper can punch/kick or elbow players if they look like they're making a clear effort at the ball. Same for me as the Nani situation, they should be red carded for serious fouls. If the ball goes dead, yet a keeper wipes out an attacker, it should be a foul. That needs looking at without question. The Rafael handball, to me is a red and a pen, but you can see why it's been missed. If you subscribe to the intention policy, his hands were above his head and stopped the ball going in the goal. Madrid scored a perfectly good goal which was overruled tonight as well. Overall, both teams have some gripes, but you've both taken part in a worthy spectacle and Man Utd have given it everything, I don't think it's a time for berating officials, but cheering your team. As a neutral, I wanted two good games of football with talking points, and I think we pretty much got that.
There is simply no place in the modern game for challenges like the one we've seen from Nani tonight. The sooner players realise they are endangering their fellow pro's, the better.
It wasn't a challenge though as he didn't know the player was there.... he was simply watching the ball, tried to control it and the other player beat him to the ball by a split second. Wasn't like it was a challenge to win the ball from the other player, in which case it would be a red, but an attempt to control the ball. Complete accident. Never a red.
Joker: Its only a 'challenge' if the 'challenger' is aware of the person they are challenging. What you are essentially saying is that players should never raise their feet above a certain level for fear of endangering a fellow pro. In which case: ban bicycle kicks. Whlie your at it, ban diving headers, as they could be pretty nasty if anybody got in the way of them. ANd oh yeah, ban keepers from punching in the area.
If a player makes a two footed lunge at the ball in an attempt to control the ball, unaware of any other player, he gets the ball but unfortunately smashes into a player who "just appears", it's a red card and nobody argues because that's the law of the game. Same with high dangerous challenges really according to the rules. Taking Nani's incident from that view, at best you can argue it's an unlucky red, but technically correct. That's ignoring the blatant kick-out.
