Well I have to say we are where we are for one reason NOT GOOD ENOUGH Hull wanted it more than us,they were first to the majority of balls.their defence defended as every ball was the last they would see. Their midfield ran the show, and cut through us with ease. Their strikers looked like they could score at will. All in all no complaints regards the score.the best team one. Their was some good points,Stead and Taylor played well.Heaton kept us in the game. The bad points how can you play foster on the wing when you have a proper winger sat on the bench in Anderson.'dels signing' How can you play Davies out wide,when the guy has been scoring goals for fun recently,completely wasted there. I really don't now where the next points are coming from,we are heading for a long and hard season,which will unfortunately end in relagation in the form we are at present.
I think we will be bottom in two weeks time shiny,he has lost the plot with continuous changes,and players in wrong positions.
****sake you say played Davies out on the wing who ****ing scored? To me they cut through the midfield a few times compared to the last games we have played. We hit the post the crossbar on another day they would of gone in. Anderson looked poor when he came on so probably Del see's him in training more than us so he knows more. The defence was made because of injuries to J.Wilson this morning and Carey out for 3 weeks. Taylor looked good, Stead done his normal run around at them. If Davies had a extra inch on him he would of connected with Taylor's cross the first few minutes of the second half. We beat Leicester last year with dropping Albert and playing Foster in midfield. Most importantly if people stopped looking at Adomah with rose tinted glasses you will see he was terrible against Burnley and apart from a run down the left when he was breaking away showed he has no left leg. Don't get me wrong when on form is fantastic to watch but watch his positional play he just stands around and wants to beat 3-4 men before he passes. And before anyone questions why Davies came off he was injured.
ROD I now your a big fan of Del but you have got to start questioning his teams,his tactics,we seem to have a different team playing every game. Adomah deserved to be dropped,however why Fontaine was not dropped before his injury is mind boggling. Why Anderson did not get the nod after his display and goal is mind boggling. Sorry but he is digging himself into a bigger hole as the weeks are going by.
Red I did groan with today's selection but then it was anounced about the injuries so I can see the defence reasoning. Playing Foster was probably to give the midfield a bit of bite but unfortunetely did not work as well as expected. We have been powder puff in midfield so going without Anderson and Adomah meant they had a bit of grit. In hindsight could of worked but as someone said behind me it looks like M.Wilson and Foster don't get on because the amount of times he should of passed to Foster was ridiculous. Stead out on the wing allowed Davies to float about. Which IMO shows that with some bollocks in midfield someone like Cisse Davies could play midfield or a Rooney sort of role. Taylor held the ball up really well and today I actually saw he has quick feet. I don't rate M.Wilson so Foster should play there instead. We have back up in that position with Edwards We need a strong midfielder perhaps we already have that in Elliott. Which I then think Davies can roam around. Pearson should play on the wing as he has not got the balls for central midfield, but is a good squad player. My biggest concern is Del don't trust J.Wilson but is it because my kids went to school with Jamie I'm in a blind opinion I don't know sorry. So a RCB and a strong midfielder Cunningham back you decide if we really are relegation fodder or are we just in a poor run which all teams go through at some part of the season. We finish better than we start a season. But here's a question for you, if you are correct and Del has lost the plot. Do we sack him pay compo employ another manager and get no transfer kitty in January. Keep the faith and give Del the backing to get some of the targets that he wanted but for some reason turned us down. And who do we get as manager?
Well said ROD. Somewhere else a post mentioned one or two injuries; well we've had more than our fair share with what we've had. Cunningham, Skuse, Elliott, Elokobi, Joe Bryan; now Fonts and Carey both 3 weeks minimum, J Wilson. Plus Pearson's personal problems and Davies lack of a pre-season to get him match fit. And even today, according to DMc post match interview, Davies and McManus were sick at half time. Yes all teams have to cope with injuries and suspensions but three left backs for goodness sake? I still think DMC is a good manager and apart from the important matter of first team results is beginning to get a club strategy together that will be good for the future. We have spent too many years without any planning for the future, with short term fixes. We have been like a child who put all the pocket money in the piggy bank on Friday, and thinks they are saving for the future; only to spend it all on Sunday! We've run an Academy without any end product for too long and it is apparent that this part of the club is making progress. We now have a hell of a battle on our hands for the third year running. Driving McInnes out will solve nothing. We as City supporters must back him and every player thaty puts the shirt on to the absolute limit. We will turn this around before too long, because everyone inside the club, whether they are ourr favourites or not appears at present to be giving everything to halt this bad run. Let's all get behind them. Please!
Sorry, that was bloody rubbish tonight, we could have been 3/4 down within 20 mins. Tactics wrong, defence, none. Balance, wrong, Shape, wrong, creative non exsistent. We are where we are for good reason, we look like a bunch of strangers. Another long season ahead. Where are the points coming from on this form???? I'm not sure I see them. Del's got his work cut out that's for sure. The question I ask If you were SL, would you give Del more money to spend? I'm not sure I would.
Looking at recent performances, just how did we manage to beat Cardiff and Palace who are both in the top 4 ? Hull aren't amongst the best in this division by a long way, but importantly, and at present, they were far superior to us in every respect. We have 4 out of the next 6 games away from home. Worrying, very worrying
Sorry to keep bringing this up but now we have McManus we urgently need a RCB neither Fontaine or Nyatanga can play there Carey is too slow to play there week in week out and Wilson has so far not shown he has it in him to be the answer. We have the midfielders at the club to sort out Central midfield as long as Elliott is fit and plays because he makes other players look good in that position even Skuse. I would prefer to see Elliott and Morris in CM with Morris being more of a defensice player and Elliott told to just get stuck in then provided our defence is sorted Foster at RB McManus and A N Other as CB's and Cunningham LB we can go back to playing with wingers, Yes Adomah still has things to learn but on his day is almost unplayable - Then with Pearson and Anderson fighting it out for wid left we could be a team to be reckoned with. My only concern with DM is on his blind faith in Fontaine and Skuse, Fontaine just is not worth a place in the team and Skuse does not deserve a place in Central Midfield he needs to be at Rt Back fighting it out with Foster for a place or even with Albert for playing Rt Midfield. That at least is MHO.
Barnsleys bossed City midfield then bolton then hull then.The oppostions midfield have the majority of the ball but people still think city need extra defenders!!! Palace were **** really ****. Cardiff was a one off high tempo from midield not see an again this season. Mccinnes midfield do not put the graft in week in week out.
Read from an opposition fan somewhere our midfield are to static, it's an absoloute miracle when skuse or pearson pass it forward or make a positive run up the pitch, you see teams like hull give and go, pass then move into space do we ever do that? do we heck, our teams a joke. Feel so sorry for our good players, davies, adomah, baldock heaten
McInnes sticks with Skuse why because we have not got anyone else at the club at the moment. I would say Morris is struggling with fitness and was only bought as a last ditch measure if Skuse or Elliott were out. McInnes stuck with Fontaine simply because at that moment he was the best left sided defender at the club, out of form but how's that going to improve when he's not playing. I once spoke to Bob Taylor who told me that we were probably the worst fickle fans. And this proves it Fontaine goes through a rough patch what do we do moan everytime he gets picked on twitter here and OTIB moan and whing on, to be trueful I felt the last few games he tried to hard to please and the pressure got to him. But Del saw this bought McManus in, played Fontaine in a different position which Shiny said he did not do to bad, this also allowing Foster to return to RB. But Carey was the weak link that day, so try Fontaine alongside a cooler head in McManus allowing Fontaine to move forward he nearly scored but went off injured. Based on the last 8 games last season everyone was ****ing over Skuse, Carey, Stead and Bikey, also Fontaine when returned from injury 4 still at the club and 4 not performing at the moment. I can look back at previous threads and those 4 have all been mentioned as the first names on the teamsheet. And before anyone mentions Bikey he has proved on previous times gets comfortable at a club and don't perform, plus lost his temper so got a few bookings. Based on last night team we were patched up in defence due to injuries with a bit of grit in midfield, play Stead on the left he will hurry down their defence put Foster in midfield because at the moment everyone's hero who can do no wrong in people's eyes Albert is just not performing plus it worked last year against Leicester at home. Davies further back into midfield but even though chucking up and got to much for him in the end still scored but gave us an outlet. Taylor up front who I thought played really well. Del knows we need a right sided defender has tried to sign 3-4 that we know off probably more but they did not want to come,also knows we need an improved midfield and tried signing Busacky who also did not want to come. We don't know why these players don't want to join us but for some reason were not interested. Started this season with an improved Woolie but once he started to give wayward passes the crowd groaned and moaned so went of the boil. We had a fantastic left back who is injured and replaced him with another who broke his leg, up that point we were looking good again. So now we are looking at another who at times last night looked good but nervous so will settle in. We might as some say beat a **** team in Palarse but we beat them comfortable, we beat Cardiff because we had confidence to attack them held a tidy team in Florist away to 1-0, lost to Barnsley who normally start well beat Boro also stuffed Brum 5-0 at Brum. Peterborough resorted to hard physical stuff injured are players and then scored a last min penalty which was harsh seeing as they should not of had their players on the pitch. Lost to Blackburn with two goals in injury time due to our desire to try and win. Leicester we were ****e, Bolton we ****ed up bad Watford could of won Leeds read same as Blackburn. Burnley staged a fightback to concede in injury time again when last season would never of got back into it. Quite a few of these could of swang our way and we would all be bleating on about dark horses and playoffs. I don't believe that Del is making silly choices or keeping favourites in the team just trying to get back a winning formation where we don't look like rabbits in car headlights. One final note, I can design you a concrete wall but without the steel it's brittle. What we are missing is that steel. Maybe Elliott will provide that or we get to January and get someone then. PS just incase any knows about concrete, yes we can now construct it without steel, I can design that if anyone's interested
Add Cisse and that is the reason City stayed up. This season the 4-4-2 compact shape has been abandoned. Millions spent Cisse has not been replaced. City have been weak and **** across midfield. Mccinnes now goes and plays three in midfield instead of four and puts centre fowards on the wing!!!
In fairness Del has always said Cisse is welcome back even to the stage that some on here said if Cisse is not interested he can **** off. That decision is as far as Im aware still open to Cisse just the board would not back Del on the demands Cisse wanted.
C'mon lads long way to go yet ......... bit dodgy yes but not yet dire ...... can't understand why Stead was taken off but none the less the guy in charge is paid to make these decisions.
Twenty nine players at the club mate and not one who can do what Cisse did. City had a midfield yesterday yet again without a tackle in it. Gillingham and Barnsley have already bossed that midfield. They do not even mark players, track back etc **** knows what McCinnes does with them in training. They should be doing defensive drill after defensive drill. That is down to McCinnes.
If I do have one critism of McInnes it is the powder **** midfield, don't know if any on here saw McInnes play but he was not afraid to tackle. But I do trust that he has built the shell of the team just need to fill in the middle some backbone hopefully the board back him would be great to have someone like Buzsacky feeding the players and a Roy Keane Patrick Vierra moulded midfield which I always called Cisse a poor mans Vierra. A strong mentally player like Tony Adams who I might add never impressed me much on TV but once I saw him live I was totally blown away, positional always reads the game hard player to play against. From that day I try and choose a player to watch during the game not just watch the ball felt it gives me a better understanding of the player. See what their off the ball movement is like and so fore. Which is probably why Albert drives me mad great on the ball, but positional terrible. Wants to be the hero with moves that players can't do but forgets its a team game. Watch Davies you will see that I believe will be one of the best to come here. Woolie to be is too intelligent for most of our midfield plays balls to where players should be not where they are hence I thought Gregg knew this allowed Woolie to play to his strength. Was it Beckham that said too Walcotte stop crossing to a player and put it where they should be!
Seven of that "team" yesterday were signed by McCinnes. That was his team so its time he started getting performances out of them.
Ok that sounds fair enough let assess it? Heaton (signed by Del) played well. Wilson (reluctantly signed by Del, mostly due to fan pressure!) shocking. Nyatanga (not signed by Del, not good enough) Mcmanus (signed by Del) I thought he did ok! Brigg (signed by Del) looked ok to me, first game? Foster (signed by Del) not great but ok? Skuse (not signed by del) seems to be getting the most and fiercest criticism. Pearson (signed by Del) voted MOM.. (not by me, but?) Stead (not signed by Del) not my cup of tea but ok, wouldn't start for me.. Davies (signed by Del) Been best player last two games for me Taylor (not signed by Del) played well for me, one of the better players yesterday! Overall the better players were Del signings? and have been since he arrived.
