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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by - Doing The Lambert Walk, Jul 12, 2012.

  1. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, I know it's not strictly Saints related but Pompey handed a 10 point deduction as they prepare to start life in L1.


    What will happen from here?

    Will they slip further?



    DTLW
     
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  2. ----HistoryRepeating----

    ----HistoryRepeating---- Well-Known Member

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    Young Ming was only today, asking us Saints if we remember them being in the Prem & us being bottom of L1. Well, now we have a proper mirror image.
    I think their journey to positive points may even take longer than ours, & we managed to drag it out!
     
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  3. RorSFC

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    LOL down they go to League 2...
     
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  4. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    no players + no points = big trouble!
     
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  5. SFCJordi

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    Jelly and ice cream anyone? :)
     
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  6. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    Always going to happen, they never even pretended to honour that original CVA. They're lucky it's just ten points.
     
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  7. CBK

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    Think thats quite light compared to the points deductions for Bournemouth & Leeds & Luton in previous years.

    I hear that Pompey are having a training camp in Spain?! Who is paying for that?!?
     
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  8. Wisescummer

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    It's actually worse than that. They have 8 players they can't afford but can't give away and -10 points. :emoticon-0116-evilg #Schadenfreude
     
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  9. LocutusOfBorg

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    The Fat Lady is practising her scales.
     
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  10. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    Will be really rubbing their noses in it if we announce a couple more big money signings!
     
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  11. jacksk1

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    Down to 7 players now. Mokoena and Kanu won't be back and Mullins has gone to Birmingham.
     
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  12. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    They also have to re-pay all football creditors by the start of the season or they will not be permitted membership to the FL.
     
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  13. SFCJordi

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    How much do they owe?
     
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  14. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    I think the term is "****ed"
     
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  15. CBK

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    The points deduction is only 1 condition of taking part in League 1. Firstly they have to settle ALL football debts IN FULL and thats worth millions in itself and I doubt Chainrai has the money to do that even before a ball is kicked.
     
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  16. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Just 3 years ago in the Summer of 2009 it was this exact situation the other way round.

    Saints nailed to the bottom of L1 and Pompey in the PL.

    Mind you we had an owner willing to invest and some good facilities as assets.


    Thank you once more, Nicola and Markus.
     
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  18. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    I can see how upset you really are:emoticon-0116-evilg
     
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  19. CBK

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    The Board of The Football League has agreed to make an offer of membership to the eventual purchaser of Portsmouth Football Club. The offer is subject to the successful bidder accepting a number of conditions that seek to ensure the sporting integrity of league football and the financial viability of the Club going forward.

    The Football League Board has absolute discretion as to whether to admit any new company as a member of The League. In doing so, it has to strike a balance between giving a club another chance and the effect this has on sporting competition between clubs. Through its Insolvency Policy, The League aims to secure the continuation of the club in its local community. In seeking to achieve this it requires that:

    a) all football debts have been settled in full (although these may be compromised by mutual agreement).

    b) creditors have been given the opportunity to indicate their satisfaction (or otherwise) at the proposed arrangements (normally through the acceptance of a Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA)).

    In Portsmouth’s previous administration, a significant amount of unsecured debt was compromised in a CVA approved by creditors in June 2010, with an anticipated outcome of twenty pence in the pound. In the event, these creditors had not had their claims settled prior to the Club’s further administration in February 2012.

    Under the new CVA these claims would be further compromised to less than one penny in the pound without creditors having the opportunity to indicate whether they find this acceptable. This is because the claims rest in the liquidation of the previous company and the liquidator of that company has voted to accept the terms of the new CVA.

    Therefore, the Board were faced with the prospect of numerous unsecured creditors receiving less than one penny in the pound, without having the opportunity to indicate their satisfaction (or otherwise) in the normal way. In the Board’s view, these arrangements do not respect a key principle of The Football League’s Insolvency Policy (as described above in b).

    Therefore, as a condition of membership, any new company established to apply for ownership of Portsmouth Football Club’s share in The Football League will be required to:

    1. Accept a deduction of 10 points in the 2012/13 season;

    2. Agree that only a limited proportion of the secured debt from the previous club can be carried forward into the new company as secured debt.

    3. Pay all football creditors in full, unless mutually acceptable compromise agreements are put in place.

    4. Agree to a range of other restrictions on playing budgets, future borrowing and loan repayments for the next 5 seasons.

    It will now be for the administrator to seek to finalise arrangements for the sale of the club with interested parties. The Board will consider the application for transfer of membership once the administrator has selected the final purchaser.
     
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  20. ----HistoryRepeating----

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    DTLW, we prepared for our financial difficulties in a far more sensible manner. Whereas they have changed very little since becoming the first EPL club to go into administration. Reckless is what I would call it.
     
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