Sectarianism Doesn't Pay

Listen mate, I don't want Rangers to sing ****ty songs, I don't like them and an ever increasing section of our support think likewise.

We are trying to weed them out, that much is obvious, but what DOESN'T help is perma-offended guys like Rebel wagging his big yellow finger in our faces. If these guys were so offended, then surely they would be trying to help us quash the problem instead of using it as a stick to beat us with.

It's obvious that Rebel wants Rangers fans to sing these songs so it flames his bitterness.

 

I've tried for years on here (606) to show rangers fans that your anti - everything (mainly anti irish) belief will get you in trouble. Trouble is you dont listen. Celtic are not without fault, i cringe at all the rebel ****e (im an irish republican to boot) but being pro something is a whole lot different that being anti - something.

Like them or or loath them, the IRA they are an accepted organisation. the good friday agreement saw all them convicted IRA members be freed from jail remember. Technically still illegal to be a member, but given they are a disbanded organisation i doubt you'd be jailed for belonging to a group that is disbanded. So if you'll not get in trouble for claiming to be a member of the IRA you'll not be in trouble for singing a song in praise of the same grouping.

Now i take your point - i can see how British people may be offended by people singing about the IRA, therefroe its distasteful to sing it - and we should stop it! I hope we do. but just cuz its offensive alone doesnt mean we'll be fined. Like it or loath it this is why. most importantly it has **** all to do with the football and we have plenty of football songs to sing

i dont like the songs being sung either - im glad we dont. Im glad that mid 90s my club made moves to ban this out of fear it might lead to trouble (10 years before you lot were punished). So even though technically we did nothing wrong we tried to move on of our own back

Being anti everything Celtic fans support ( as above meaning mainly anti irish) will lead to continued trouble for you. you can try and laugh it off as anti plastic paddy (plastic paddy could itself be considered as offensive mind you) but its wrong. IN this day and age you cant get away with it - laugh or not

This is what you need to understand before you stop being fined and getting into trouble.

For if you fail to understand this then you'll continue to get banned and fined and ask why we dont.

YOu might stop singing the famine song and the Billy boys, but you'll just move on to make up a new one - as you do not understand why you get in trouble!!!!!!! your mindset has to be to think before you first sing the songs, not after you are threatened

You need to also realise that despite the fact that when Smith sang the songs 50 years ago and rangers werent punished it wasnt because it has suddenly become illegal, its always been wrong to sing anti irish songs - you just werent punished. Same as once upon a time it wasnt illegal to have a slave - it has always been wrong though

 

Anport, I fully understand that Rangers songs are ****e, and more anit-Celtic than pro-Rangers.

I don't personaly give a **** what Celtic sing, I'm a Rangers fan and that's really all the matters to me.

Cheerio

 

And i dont give a **** what Rangers sing deep down. A song wont offend me. I grew up in Armagh - it will take a lot to offend me and a song is not one of them

Im just trying to add my opinion on why you lot get punished. I dont actually care if you get punished again.... indeed i find it amusing. But when you ask why you get punished and Celtic dont i'll answer. whether you listen or not will be up to you

just dont be shocked when you next ask the same question

 

I never asked that question at any point.

And fair play to you for not getting offended by a ****ty song

 

"DIRTY ORANGE BASTARD" "Cheer up Wattie Smith - SAD ORANGE BASTARD"

Sectarian singing. If you fail to acknowledge that, then I'm done with you.

Ps. I notice a reoccurring them with the people you argue with on here, that lots of people say that you're a hypocrite, something that you rebuke every time. Ignorance is bliss eh?

 

Tell me the songs that are anti-Catholic or even more anti-Irish.

 

Rangers have a minor problem with Sectarian singing from a minority of fans

 

Adults only Dev, Trevs tagging you again, go and take him to task.

Ps. Was it a bottle thrown v Rapid Vienna? (3rd time I've asked)

 

Thank you Mr Rebel. You have been shown as a hypocrite on this thread and many others, then you say that you know what a hypocrite is, then post a nonesense meaning.

I'm no liar, trust me.

When Celtic fans sing Orange Bastard, let there be no doubt, that they are refering to his Protestant Backround. Just like if a Rangers fan sings Dirty Fenian Bastard, although Fenian isn't a religion, they are refering to someones Catholic backround.

So, going by your logic of outright denial, Rangers fans don't sing bigotted songs, as I've never heard anyone ever sing, **** the Irish or **** the Catholics.

Though, I'm not an ignoramus and know what both supports sing to get their points across, but then again songs don't upset me.

But I know how fragile your mindset is and how upset those big bad Rangers fans get you.

I could probably argue at this point that the words Fenian and Orange are more a nickname for OF fans, moreso than any deep-seated religous hatred, but you probably won't accept that because you know of this huge sectarian problem we have here in Scotland, where people are subjected to a whole manner of sectarian hatred in their daily lives. (I'm being sarcastic)

How many Rangers fans do you know Rebel, and how many would you consider to be good friends?

I've got a client, who's Celtic daft, he's got seats at Parkhead, his sons are called Liam and Shay, he isn't a lapsed Catholic like many, and he gave us about £700k woth of work last year, I have a supplier, who's a Celtic man, and I've probable spent £500k with him in the past 2 years.

My best mate is a Celtic fan.

My wife is a ex-Celtic fan.

All her family are Tims.

My daughters best pal is a Catholic and she sometimes goes to Church with her on a Sunday.

Does this look like a sectarian society to you?

Why don't you use your time usefully and try and heal the sectarian divide that exists in your country instead of sticking your nose into our buisness.

IMO we have bigger problems with knife-crime, drinking too much and child poverty than this small issue of bad songs getting sung at football grounds.

Not that I'm dismissing it you understand.

 

Well, TBH, I don't know why we have been pulled up this time, so if you could tell me that would be great.

Prove it that I'm a liar, your wee clip below is at CP, so where's the others?

I never heard James McCarty being abused at Ibrox, I heard Noel Hunt being abused, but he's a devisive charachter, much like Barry Ferguson was and Nacho Novo.

So why are you not upset with Celtic fans singing about ORANGE bastards?

Celtic had strong links with the Republican community? When, in 1888? Really? I never knew that Scotland had a Republican community back then, or the Ireland did either, thought they would be more into surviving the Famine than politics, anyway, you know which songs are frowned upon more than me, unlike yourself, I'm not obsessed with making Celtic look bad. [/QUOTE]

Why not, because it suits your flawed arguements and thought processes?

So, you've shown 5 clips. ok

1. "**** your pope and the IRA." - So, the Pope is to get ****ed and the IRA. Well the reference to the IRA obviously isn't anti-Irish or anti-Catholic. The reference to the Pope is wrong, and we'll need to eradicate that. But again, the Pope is an individual person and I doubt if he is offended by that. Also from 2007.

2. "Billy Boys" - This is actually an Old Glasgow gang song, sung origanally in the 30's when a Protestant gang from Brigeton whose leader was Billy Fullerton used to fight with Cathlolic gangs. Again, not anti-Irish, and going by your logic of Orange, Fenian isn't a sect either, so not sectarian either,

3. "Billy Boys" - See above

4. "Famine Song" - We'll need to eradicate that from the songbook, as some people are offended by a question in the sung. Kudos.

5. "Nakamura ate my dog banner" - I don't get this one?

All of these clips are either from Celtic games or European ties, so still no evidence that they're are "thousands breaking the law every week"

Take your head out of your arse and see what countelss other individuals on here are all saying about you.... Hypocrite!

 

You are a hypocrite.

You haven't proved that thousands break the law every week. The famine song is sung infrequently, it's certainly not sung every week. the same with the other songs that supposedly offend you.

The clips you show demostrate hundreds, not thousands singing these songs.

Will you answer any of my questions?