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Routledge vs Montero

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by seabreeze, Dec 20, 2015.

  1. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    Although I like Montero , he's a super sub imo.
    He's a one trick pony and it worked well enough in the beginning to have most saying he's worth 20 million ..But most teams have figured out his one trick to stay close to the line , kick it forward and out race the defender to the ball.
    Nobody will ever figure out what Routs will do next .
    The biggest reason for Monks downfall this season was exclusion of Routledge and Britton from almost every game . And playing Bartley his last 3 games was the final nail in the coffin .
    Just an opinion .
     
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    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    "Just an opinion",and as usual,a good one. <ok>
     
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  3. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    All I'm saying is that the less opponents see Montero , the more effective he will be and that has subbing written all over it .
     
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    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    Routledge has more experience and is a little more versatile whilst Montero has better pace and is probably a better provider.

    That said, I'd have taken either yesterday at the 60 minute mark. <grr> Routledge carrying an injury but Montero criminally not used.
     
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  5. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    I would have used Montero at the 60 minute mark too , but being a manager is a complex situation , who knows why he made the changes . Other fans could give their 2 cents worth and be different than what we thought Aussie . We could have ( and should have ) been given a spot kick ,won , and subs wouldn't be an issue . To many times the result dictates the criticism of the subs
     
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    Montero has been "found out" because there's been bugger all happening on our other flank - so the opposition can always double/treble up on him.

    Play him in a team with two out and out wingers and he will fly again <ok>
     
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  7. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    Boy , that's stretching it a bit whitey .
    Our best point total last season had Routledge start 27 games , from the left and right side and he's as tricky from either .
    Montero has started the majority so far this season without really making a name that he use to from , only the left and only one trick .
    We've played 2 of our best games in a row under Curtis in a long time with the total of wingers starting from both games equaling 1 , Routledge against Man City ... Man of the match .
     
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    Routledge hasn't been on the other flank in the majority of the games :bandit: I'm off about our other "winger" Ayew
     
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    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    Routledge had no problems playing without a winger on the other side , within your theory that if there was two wingers there would be less pressure on the one winger .
    Most times when Montero has struggled it is from the right back alone without any other midfielders help .
    Curtis must have seen something in the Hammer game that deemed him to bring a winger on the right side .
    Montero can't play there so he brought Barrow on .....as simple as that imo .
     
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    I haven't seen Wayne tearing down the wing putting in crosses this season while Ayew has been on the other flank.
    To me it's not a case of Routledge v Montero. It's a case of Routledge AND Montero.
     
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    Surely if we play with 2 out and out wingers that will affect our midfield formation and retention of possession. Those pretty triangles that we keep banging on about on here (the swansea way). I think this is the reason for Curtis's decisions when we are controlling the game by dominating possession. The question he has to ask himself is does he (a) reducee that in order for more attacking down the flanks and crosses and potentially better service to Gomis or (b) stick with the original game plan and hope that our front man bury's the chances that he gets. Osian Roberts alluded to this during the West Ham game when explaining tactical decisions in game by the manager. The commentator asked the same question some on here have asked about Montero not being brought on and that was his observation and response.
     
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  12. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    " The Swansea Way " was a thing of beauty from league 1 all the way up to the top flight .
    During that rise there was a core set of players that proved you could hold a position at all levels within the same team with belief and confidence in each other .
    As long as only a few players were introduced to the "Way " it could be maintained.
    But there is no more core and it is unrealistic to think we can make wholesale changes and expect everyone to understand it .
    To me , Leon Britton was "The Swansea Way " but he started 7 games last season and is just coming on line now , how Monk overlooked his possible contribution is beyond me .I hope Leon starts to get his badges and becomes our manager some day .
    Meanwhile , we must play to the strengths of the players , whoever they may be as we go along for the rest of our time in The Premier .
    The biggest difference I can see between Monk's abilities and Curtis's is Monk was over coaching the players into staunchness while Curtis has given the players the green light to stray a bit within their responsibilities.
    Just look at Corker's advancement under Curtis ,
    Two straight games of total improvement under Curtis with hardly a winger in sight .
    Let's not be critics to things that are successfully different trying to hold on to an old dream , it's "The New Way "
    And it makes us harder to read
     
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