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question for athiests

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    so whatever suits?
     
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  2. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Rubbish.
     
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  3. SUPERNORWICH 23

    SUPERNORWICH 23 SUPERNORWICH

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    Pretty much, and doing his Muslim bros and sisses a massive disservice too
     
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  4. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    http://www.sciencealert.com.au/news/20112908-22550.html
     
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  5. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    No. I'm simply answering your question honestly which is more than you can manage.
     
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  6. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    truthfully who knows. But I understand that the functions of some are not 'useless' as previously thought
     
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  7. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    care to explain?
     
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  8. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    sorry some people argue (wrongly) that evolution explains the 'creation' of the universe
    you are right there is nO evidence of species jumping
     
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  9. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Who?
     
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  10. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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  11. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    and 'honestly'

    If we can 'see' certain things and come to certain conclusions eg we and all animals reproduce therefore dinosaurs reproducing is logical

    we CAN also conclude logically that all things are created by something, therefore a creator is a logical conclusion?
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Your original question has been answered repeatedly.
    Do I accept that any of those answers are proven, personally?
    No.

    Something existing doesn't mean that it was created.

    No.
    Even if it did, then the creator would have to have a creator.
    It's called infinite regress.

    Yet some of them clearly are.
    Why do we have a tail bone?
    Why do we have wisdom teeth?
    Why do we have the remains of a third eye-lid?
    Wouldn't these vestigial remnants suggest that we evolved?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils
     
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  13. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    where is the overwhelming evidence that we once used them?

    vestigial functions are more than just the coccyx and can it not just be that the coccyx serves as a support structure for muscles and acts as a shock absorber when sitting down?

    as for the tails bit, a portruding or extended coccyx does NOT a tail make. kids are born with 6 fingers/toes. it happens
     
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  14. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    No, it isn't. I can show you proof of animals mating and producing young. You for example.

    You can't show me any evidence of a creator.

    is it sinking in yet?
     
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  15. Treat Williams

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    Under law, if I didn't want it then yes it would be rape. This doesn't prove free will.

    How about mental illness? Do sufferers choose to suffer?
     
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  16. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    you keep posting these links, yet i wonder if you have read them? this link actually supports my argument imo as it says things like

    '..a tentative list'
    ..transitional fossils is essentially a misconception
    ...the fossil record is incomplete...
     
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  17. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Show us evidence of a creator TFWNN.

    If you can't it proves God doesn't exist.
     
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  18. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    there is no proof of dinosaurs mating yet you accept based on what we know

    thats called hypocricy

    unless you can show me some evidence of something out of nothing?
     
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  19. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    this is relevant how to the debate?
     
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  20. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    First of all, you don't understand what hypocrisy means.

    Secondly, there's no evidence, none whatsoever, of a creator, so by your logic, God doesn't exist <ok>
     
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