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Premature Calculation

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by A Touch of Clas, Jul 4, 2011.

  1. SAINTDON13

    SAINTDON13 Well-Known Member

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    I can stand on my hands but it don't half hurt my fingers!
     
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  2. AdamBanana20

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    Why buy players when we've got them at our disposal (use the academy players).
     
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  3. North Hants Saint

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    Copied from another forum, here's how teams promoted from League One have done in their following season/s.

    L1 2009/10 -championship position following year

    Norwich -2 promoted
    Leeds -7
    Millwall -9

    L1 2008/09

    Leicester -6 went out on pens to Cardiff in playoff semi final
    P'boro -24 (relegated)
    Sc*nthorpe -20

    L1 2007/08

    Swansea -8 and finished 7th and playoff winners the next two seasons
    N'Forest -19 but finished 3rd and 6th the next two seasons
    Doncaster- 14

    L1 2006/07

    Sc*nthope -23 (relegated)
    Bristol City -4 lost in the playoff final
    Blackpool- 19

    L1 2005/06

    Southend -22 (relegated)
    Colchester -10
    Barnsley -20

    L1 2004/05

    Luton- 10
    Hull- 18
    Sheff Weds- 19

    L1 2003/04

    Plymouth - 17
    QPR- 11
    Brighton- 20

    L1 2002/03

    Wigan –7 promoted following season
    Crewe -18
    Cardiff -13

    L1 2001/2002

    Brighton -23 (relegated)
    Reading -4 (lost in playoff semis)
    Stoke City -21

    L1 2000/2001

    Millwall -4 (lost in the playoff semis)
    Rotherham -19
    Walsall- 21

    L1 1999/2000

    PNE -4 (lost in the playoff final)
    Burnley -7
    Gillingham -13

    L1 1998/1999

    Fulham -9 champions following season
    Walsall -22 (relegated)
    Man City -2 promoted
     
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  4. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Bit of a mixed bag, but only 6/36 promoted teams were relegated in the 1st Championship season. Probably what you'd expect as they would presumably be decent sides to get promoted. Only Norwich went directly through. Interesting. Wonder how the teams relegated from the Prem did; how many went back up?
     
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  5. Saint_Nom

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    Leicester are just panic buying to me, they have the money at their disposal & buying what ever & who ever seems to be the 'talked about name' of the moment. We might have the money but I would much rather a board like ours that have their heads screwed on & looking for players that will make a difference & not just filling up a squad because they can. Look at Man City they buy all these names, but cna they keep them all happy? No!?!

    We all know that NA & NC will have a plan in place & names they would like, & deals are more than likely in progress at the moment, just doesnt need to be made a public matter. We have a great squad, who have geled as a unit & work well, just need a couple of names to add more depth & competition.
     
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  6. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    Since you ask:

    2010-11
    Burnley 8th
    Hull 11th
    Pompey 16th

    2009-10
    Newcastle - 1st
    Middlesbrough - 11th
    West Brom - 2nd

    2008-09
    Reading - 4th (P-O semi)
    Birmingham - 2nd
    Derby - 18th

    2007-08
    Charlton - 11th
    Sheffield Utd - 9th
    Watford - 6th (P-O semi)

    2006-07
    Birmingham - 2nd
    West Brom - 4th (lost P-O final)
    Sunderland - 1st

    2005-06
    Crystal Palace - 6th (P-O semi)
    Norwich - 9th
    Southampton - 12th

    2004-05
    Leicester City - 15th
    Leeds Utd - 14th
    Wolves - 9th

    2003-04
    West Ham - 5th (lost P-O final)
    West Brom - 2nd
    Sunderland - 3rd (P-O semi)

    2002-03
    Ipswich - 7th
    Derby - 18th
    Leicester - 2nd

    2001-02
    Man City - 1st
    Coventry - 11th
    Bradford - 15th

    2000-01
    Wimbledon - 8th
    Sheffield W - 17th
    Watford - 9th

    1999-00
    Charlton - 1st
    Blackburn - 11th
    Nottingham Forest - 14th

    So I make that 8 promotions out of 36.
     
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  7. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Thanks..knew someone couldn't resist looking it up. So, not a high number go straight back up, again because we must assume they weren't very good in the first place. The increased parachute payments may affect that, so it will become harder for other teams.
     
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  8. saintlyhero

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    Pardew did a great job of constructing the team. He quickley saw Lallana, Scheniderlin & Davies as the starmen and went about building a side in a season who did brilliantly in the cups and missed out on the play offs.
    That squad was bolstered with more players with Championship experience ready for our impending promotion.

    A few ups and downs with Pardews exit, but since his arrival Adkins has tweaked the squad, got them together and made them believe.

    It's maybe more hope than expectation, but I love the fact the players (Lambert & Martin) are talking of promotion this year. Why not? At this level of football there is not much which seperates teams, but that confidence and belief can carry a team through. Look at Norwich and Blackpool. Individually you would not think a great deal of all the players, but belief and will to win took them to the premier league and it very nearly kept Blackpool there against all the odds.

    I think some fans are taking for granted the real acheivement of the Cortese reign and thats no player has left this football club without us wanting them too. When was the last time Saints went so long without losing a top player?
     
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