PAFC are complaining about the British Land development for Bretonside. It is making Brents HHP plans impossible to achieve. ......and pasoti have gone offline in sympathy......just a coincidence of course ?....stops too much adverse comment of course that way.
You probably know what I'm going to say now don't you. I don't believe Brent ever had a chance of starting his project let alone finishing it and in my opinion this is his easy out on it by blaming somebody else. If he had started it on time as originally stated it would be built now and the Breton Side project would be playing runner up and not the other way around. I heard this on the local news earlier and thought now there is a surprise. Just tell the truth Mr Brent you don't have the cash and can't get anyone else to help you out this time as you expected to happen. It was only ever a pipe dream wasn't it.
Pasoti are back online and there doesn't seem to be much in the way of stopping comments going on. Some quite reasonable valid points on there I think.
There is us scratching around to finish any sort of stadium with anything in it as facilities and I've just read the beeb site about the opening of the Man City £200m training facility. £200m ffs!!!!!!
Sensible......don't you realize that you need such quality facilities to bring on local grown talent.......from places like Argentina,Brazil,Columbia,Spain.Italy,France,N Africa,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,.......not just the UK......of course they're all a bit older now but who cares.....but even then Man C still feel in the shadow of there neighbours in Manchester.......I wonder if Plymouth Parkway feel like that regarding their big brothers at Home Park.....it's all relative ain't it.........
I'm sure Brent spent 000's of thousands of pounds on getting the HP project to where it stands and possibly you can add another nought. Nobody spends that sort of money on a pipe dream. Just as an honestly made statement doesn't become a lie just because it turns out to be wrong, just because this project has run into trouble doesn't mean it didn't seem viable at the start. Brent's personal circumstances are not the determining factor: he'd never have put in more than a small(ish) fraction of the funds anyway. The problem is raising funds from the market and that won't have been helped if the There's politicking going on between Brent & the Council who seemed to be 100% behind the Home Park development at one time. Something has changed in that relationship.
How Brent can blame the PCC who have bent over backwards to help regarding HP I will never know. At least we know that the planned project at Bretonside will be completed, I have yet to see one thing that Brent has said he was going to do even away from HP get started. Perhaps he had trouble raising funds from the market because of who he is ... just a thought !
Maybe PCC are a bit sick and tired of the "partnership" being a one sided affair where they do all the permission granting and funding and Brent does.........well nothing so far except talk about what he might do. If I said I was going to invest in Argyle big time and build them a grandstand with revenue producing content would that be a lie or well intentioned and intended at the outset and then unfortunate when it didn't happen? I think you would consider it a lie from the start so why give Brent the benefit of the doubt continuously? There is absolutely no evidence that he ever had any means of building what was promised from the start other than his word which lets face it anyone could give. Permission was granted, then land was supplied to allow it to happen and then........diddly squat when it came to his bit. This is the same word he has given to numerous projects none of which have gotten off the ground. When do you get suspicious that the bloke is not capable of completing anything? When he stops promising or when nothing ever happens in reality after suitable time elapses.
Even I am starting to doubt whether JB will deliver a new stand in the near future. However, this doesn't skew my impression of him as a genuine person who would like to propel Argyle to a much higher standing. Numerous deals are planned and then fail for reasons various, and as Not distant points out, his spend to date on this project must already run into high 4 or 5 figures. So where does that leave us? 1. JB may well stay on as an recent Argyle convert-whilst many may say he is only in it for the money why then does he follow the team home and away? I suspect he will be in the top 10% of owners in terms of those who actually watch matches. As things stand he may not have enough personal wealth (or the desire/bottle) to continue to pump money into the club to keep it afloat. This means we end up back in the Stapleton era. i.e a keen supporter but with insufficient cash to progress the team. 2. Find a sugar daddy-I don't see many queuing up. 3. Sell his share in the club- again i don't see people queuing up- and actually, I am not sure what there is left to sell except the debt and the planning permission which promises potential, should someone be able to finance a re development. Like him or loath him my gut feeling is that we are better off with him (and wouldn't have survived without him)- he genuinely wants to re develop the ground but if he cant generate the necessary cash then I suspect we will stay as we are(off the pitch) for a few years. I would be delighted if PCC or A N Other stumps up with enough cash to build a new grandstand, but if not I am fairly happy to be sat in the playoffs with the possibility of promotion.
I don't doubt his wish for success for Argyle lyndhurst and I have never thought of him as somebody who was just going to get a profit where possible and then run away. I don't even doubt he has become a fan himself to some extent. His wish for Argyle success however is probably tinged with his knowledge that if Argyle progress then it will be worth more. What I doubt now and have pretty much always doubted is his ability to deliver the promises he made. I think Argyle are in a better position now, so therefore with him rather than without, than they were or might have been if he hadn't rolled up. But cut the bullshit and the sentimental patter he is prone to and give it to us how it really is. Do not make pie in the sky promises when you don't have the means to deliver it. That's all I ask. Honesty warts and all. We had enough of the other stuff from the last lot to last a lifetime. Don't come out with all this "there is no alternative" or "there is no plan B" stuff because we know that has been proved to be untrue. If it's untrue then by definition it is a lie. I've said for a long time now that I did not think Brent would deliver the new stand. I have seen nothing from the Brent Empire to suggest a different outcome and I'm probably one of the less sceptical of dissenting fans. I also don't take pleasure in it just to be proved right in the end either as I think some would just to be able to say I told you so. I actually want to be wrong. The longer it goes on though the more I think that's unlikely. I am happy enough with the football bit.
Sensible i agree, but for years 'Argyle fans' have moaned about lack of engagement/transparency/communication with the 'owner'. Right or wrong, good or bad, pie in the sky, bulls&*t etc i still think what comes out of his mouth is what he believes. The alternative would be the cr%p that McCauley used to spout-on the rare occasions he deigned to talk to anyone.
Cannot say that I post too much anywhere these days Joe although I must say that I prefer hands down ADT over Pasoti any day of the week. Bit quiet on here isn't it? guffaw
No doubt one will be back Joe, you know how cuddly and desirable we are. Mind you, talk about throw yourself at somebody with that user name.........O'er.....My theory is he joined to take one for his mates......Guffaw guffaw. Bit pathetic really.
