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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by RogerisontheHunt, Aug 5, 2017.

  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Yeah, that's one and similar happened in italy with tiffosi a couple times.

    It is boring as the cars have outgrown the old tracks. The modern flat sanitized tracks designed by a functional dull german are all in places that dont give a stuff.

    Spa is great but the cars are making a deadly corner like eau rouge look easy. I sincerely doubt the new rules next year will make it any better either.

    It would however be nice if people would hold races where fans give a stuff.
     
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    they have sanitized eau rouge over the years but the tracks aren't the biggest problem it is the cars as you can only overtake if you are much quicker or take a big hopeful lunge .
    Totally agree that Ecclestone just turned half the season into a turn of despots with dosh .

    Though it may just be that i'm getting old and have my rose tinted glasses for yesteryear .<laugh>
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I think everyone is the exact same.

    When the put grooves in the tyres I think hill said he wasnt interested? I mean its that long since the rule makes have been down this road of killing F1 and even a long time before it.

    The cars are too big, too dependant on aero and the fact is since they started cost reducing and banned refueling that have made it a conservation exercise not racing. Save fuel, save tyres, one stop 90% of tracks etc.

    At least even with grooved tyres refuelling meant someone could light fuel and go for faster and more stops as a strategy.
     
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  4. lfcpower

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    Dull race in the end with a predictable result. A shame because this track looked like it might promise spectacle despite the lack of overtaking opportunities. Turned out to suffer from the same problems as Monaco and the other street circuits. It's a classic old track, like Monaco again, but it's not suited to modern F1 racing and just produced a procession. The cars and regs don't help with this, too much of a difference in budgets over the years, engine and parts penalties, restrictions on parts, problems with much more dirty air when following and the aero package, the refueling ban, suitability and performance of tyres. Have to see if next year brings any meaningful positive change.

    Monaco, and comparably Zandvoort today, makes for a great event but a terrible race because of the nature of the track, those are two very different things. Lots of history, great location, involved fans (and those not so much at Monaco too) but boring racing.

    There are historical circuits that should still be on the calendar, Monza, Silverstone, Montreal, Interlagos, Spa, Suzuka because they produce great races even though they've been neutering the tracks for years, they totally ruined Hockenheim, the butchering may not be as extensive in those other places but they're sanitising them and erasing the old character. The irony is they could do with redesigning Monaco but they can't do that because they're public roads.

    Monaco only remains on the calendar by merit of its prestige and status. Seems like going to Zandvoort they had similar ideas, Verstappen's rise is also a factor, but thought the racing might be better, that hasn't been the case so really it needs a rethink.

    In terms of modern tracks F1 goes where the big money is and where the right deals can be struck, if there's a track in that place they'll use it or have a street race, if not or a street race isn't possible they'll build one and it will be a Tilke-drome sort of place. The best of those is Turkey which is actually a great circuit so it's good the plan is to go there later in the year. Overall they should be looking at building a calendar out of tracks that provide the best racing but the politics and money get in the way. Imola for example should be used, as we've seen with it being used as a stand in, but they won't go.
     
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    Roglic makes it a hatrick of Vueltas by winning todays time trial.
    Nearly five minutes ahead of everyone over the 3 week race.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    IMO when you strip out all the glamour stuff like night races in singapore you need a product to watch and to attend.

    Suzuka, made for racing, passionate crowds as well. Should be in the calendars no matter what.
    Spa, Great track still. Can pull a crowd form 3 or 4 countries and should be protected.
    Silverstone, wide track, high speeds, some real classic races. It is a barometer for me. if you can't race here the car are ****. should be top corwd too.
    Austin. Some really great fatures to this track and you've some chance of racing. Not so sure yanks give a crap though.
    Interlagos. Tun 1 and S's. what a blast. Has to be on any calender. No brazilian f1 drivers so thats hurting. Its ripe for th top driver to ignite.
    Monza. The blast and ultimate but again cars are killing it. another baromoeter. Again ultimate fans if let loosed
    canada narrow but actually a good race and great fans.
    Imola. disgrace this is not in just ot give the italians two races to party at.

    of all of the far east fancy stuff singapore and baku have a lot to be said for them in terms of racing.

    If i were in charge I would be deleting barcelona (dull) monaco (dull and pretentious) france (dull), Hungary (procession in modern gaes) and most of the newer tracks.
     
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    Raducanu is having some tournament over in the States ... into the semi-finals now
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Shoe in for presenter on a question of sport now.
     
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    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    <laugh> They've ruined that ****ing programme. No Tuffers <grr>
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    he's a character right enough.
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    The Tour of Britain went throgh Latchford yesterday. No casualties ar far as I'm aware <laugh>
     
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    I watched some highlights last night, the pace was quick but not quite as fast as those combines <badger>
     
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    That wasn't you in your spandex walking Kenny was it? :emoticon-0177-toivo
     
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    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Or snails <laugh>
     
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  17. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    A point well made...
     
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    Special and unusual doping methods introduced for this stage may account for that :shocked:o_O
     
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    Stop!
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Full on!
     
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