Off Topic OLOF's political thread

I’ll be more interested to know whether once the full details of the deal are known whether she’ll have the numbers to get it through parliment. Can’t see the DUP being happy about the EU holding a veto over the backstop.

Also be interested to see whether the tactic of threatening them with no Brexit works or whether that’s let the cat out of the bag that it can be stopped.

 

If this deal does get through then this is going to be used again and again....

 

Well, Well, well look what we have here?

Special counsel Mueller reportedly interested in Brexit boosters' ties to Trump associates, Russia

• Special counsel Robert Mueller's team is interested in a British businessman and his pro-Brexit associates' contacts with Russian diplomats and Trump campaign operatives, The Washington Post reported.
• Wealthy businessman Arron Banks reportedly met the Russian ambassador to London in August 2016, the Post reported.
• Less than a week later, Banks and his associates traveled to attend a fundraiser in Mississippi, where they had been invited by then-campaign chief executive Steve Bannon.

 

1 down, however many more to go..

 

Be careful we have a lot of St Petersburg troll factory posters on here. Watch out for Cheshski and 2pennthski in particular.

 

Now then here’s a test. Had anyone actually heard oh him before he resigned?

He’s not in the cabinet anyway, I want Penny Maudlin or Esther Mcnasty to fall on their stilettos.

 

To be honest I’ve not even heard of him now he has resigned.

Getting rid of the charming, caring, compassionate McVey might even make the last 2 years worthwhile....

 

Raab’s Just gone....

 

2nd brexiteer who’s negotiated this **** has run away

 

All jokes aside...

No doubt about it, Teresa May is making a pigs ear of it, I now detest her nearly as much as Corbyn. When it’s time for the next election I’m going to regret taking the piss out of the Yanks for allowing it to become a two horse race between Trump and Clinton as we’re going to have a similar choice, that being said oh how I wish someone like Trump was negotiating Brexit instead of May.

Her problem is trying to keep Remainers and Brexit both happy, it’s an impossible thing to do, her negotiations are being done with one eye over her shoulder thinking of the next election.

What did I want? Someone to go in, say we’re having a hard Brexit from day one, refusing to any ludicrous demands and saying if you want a trade deal you know where I am. Then spend two years preparing rather than two years of wasted back and forth utter garbage.

 

This pathetic deal leaves us half in and half out, a bit like telling your wife you're leaving her and then moving into the front room

Only way to unite the country I suppose....just piss everyone off, remainers and leavers alike

 

With Raab gone, there’s going to be at least 2 more gone today (McVey and Mordiant) and with that it should be deal dead and May over.

 

Probably be a landslide election win for Labour and Corbyn next and then they’ll spend all the money on lazy ****ers not wanting to work and claiming mystery illness robbing the genuine disabled and we’ll open up the borders claiming we have no work force and we’ll still have none because we’ll be flooded with car washers, fortune tellers and NHS thieves

 

I think it will go through. Politicians don’t care about us, they just want to feather their own nest.

Labour won’t want to be blamed for a hard Brexit or for a reversal on the Brexit vote and to pick up the pieces at a General election. Corbyn is thinking ahead, he would rather face May in a General Election as she is like the walking dead.

Labour will let it go through, May’s popularity won’t recover, it’s an open door now for Labour to walk in when this goes through.

 

There’s no way Labour are going to vote this through. This is their best chance at a general election. The Tories have created this **** show and Labour are going to make sure they own it.

 

The thing is, the clock is ticking and if there is a GE and Labour win, they would start their tenure presiding over a no-deal Brexit. Economic disaster and not what their core supporters would want.
I really can’t see any light at the end of this tunnel. We barely have a government.
The only saviour would be if a strong Brexit supporter took over from May, like Rees-Mogg, or Gove, or Boris.
God help us - we really are up **** creek.

 

Doesn’t matter if another posh brexiteer idiot takes over it won’t change parliamentary numbers. There’s not the numbers for her deal and there’s not the numbers for no deal. So it’s either back to the country for a general election to try and change those numbers or it’s back to the country for another vote.

 

Sorry I was not clear - I meant the only chance the Tories have of winning a GE is with one of those unpleasant characters in charge.

 

I think that’s true, I’m surprised any Leaver in the cabinet can stay. And as a remainer who would see a relationship very close to the EU as the next best thing, I still can’t for the life of me see the point of this deal. There is so much wrong with it.

About the only thing it is better than is crashing out with no deal at all.

 

I don’t count the NI minister but Raab gone is significant. Can’t see Maudlin and Mcnasty staying on now. Gove staying surprises me but I assume he’s playing the loyalty card to try to recover his reputation for treachery.

Tony Blair talking a lot of sense on Brexit as usual by the way.