anyone else find it incredibly depressing that both the guy who has just been convicted with racially abusing Stan Collymore on Twitter, and the one who has been arrested for the comments on Muamba are both university students?
not at all depressing because the majority of us know that university students are dumb and their comments prove this there is no need for idiots like them in todays society rant over
Sadly, not everybody - in fact, nobody - fits into these nice little categories that people are intent on creating. It is very naive to say "well I'm genuinely shocked that somebody at a university could ever make comments such as these". He's at University because he excels at a particular subject and was competent enough at a few others to be admitted. NOT because he's anything like your ideal (and unrealistic) student.
I am a student of a University, but I did tell a few fibs as to where that was at the beginning of the year to throw people off my scent. As I've said before, I know people who use this site of varying ages and I didn't want them to expose me
Well I didn't used to think I was unrealistic, and neither do I want to categorise people - but surely at the minimum someone should be bright enough to realise that they are likely to be found out and that when that happens there may well be other consequences FFS!
Howard Marks studied Physics at the University of Oxford and ended up serving 7 years in jail. He's clearly an intelligent man, but he was dumb enough to get caught doing something illegal. Likewise with this Taff kid, who got pissed and made the mistake of logging-in to Twitter
I'm disappointed it's a student, but I think Erik is right here. Maybe I did have an unrealistic expectation that only down-and-outs say this kind of stuff, and more intellectual people don't. They obviously do. It's still depressing though. And a shame. If it was an unemployed, drug-addled curb-crawler, no one would give a ****. It's a kind of prejudice on my part.
Howard Marks found he could make money from doing something illegal, got away with it for a time, made (and lost!) a considerable amount of money, then got caught and did his time and now makes a living out of his memoirs - don't really see the comparison?
Decency and moral fibre doesn't get given out with a degree certificate. I don't have a degree and I'm a thoroughly decent chap. My wife does and she would rob the pennies off a dead mans eyes. FACT.
The point I'm making is that from a legal perspective, this kid is no more or less of a criminal than either a murderer or someone selling pirate DVDs. From an intellectual perspective, he's no less intelligent than the girl I met last week (a student at the University of Leeds) who asked her friend "if America was a Buddhist country". Morality concerns neither legality or intelligence, and vice-versa. Obviously from a moral perspective the kid's a bit of a plank, but who gets to decide what's morally right and wrong on behalf of him, and why should they?
Obviously from a moral perspective the kid's a bit of a plank, but who gets to decide what's morally right and wrong on behalf of him, and why should they? Erm......... so its morally OK to abuse people on Twitter by making racist comments and saying they should die?
I've already said he's a plank, but his biggest, dumbest mistake wasn't saying it, it was saying it on Twitter where thousands could see it! Out of curiosity, answer me this: A man ends up in prison after committing a couple of thefts from various stores, carried out for no reason other than the adrenaline rush he gets from doing so. He does his short stint inside, comes out and re-offends almost instantly. He goes back to prison. He's served two sentences and has at least two offences to his name. Another man gets drunk and sleeps with a consenting 14-year-old girl he met in a club, after she was let in by bouncers she duped with a fake ID. He gets caught and serves a spell in prison. He comes out and never re-offends. Who, in your eyes, is more worthy of our contempt? Who is 'more' of a criminal?
The law doesn't deal with morality. Somebody driving at 36mph in a 30-zone isn't exactly immoral, but it's illegal.
