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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by cjuliennech1, Sep 8, 2011.

  1. cjuliennech1

    cjuliennech1 Member

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    Having now heard that wilshere will be out until november and vermalen will be out for a month it really does back up my initial worry as to why wenger did not bring in 2 centre backs. We have replacements for wilshere in midfield as frimpong is back from suspension and we have signed benayoun and arteta but we are now left to choose from koscielny and djourou to partner mertesacker neither of which i trust. I do hope that wenger will spend again in january and bring in 2 or 3 players to improve the squad. In other news it has become apparent that frimpong has opted to play for ghana over england, this is probably the right move for him as ghana are a team that are ever improving with young players whereas i dont see where england have a view to be positive. Frimpong will help the ghanaian team and will learn from players like muntari gyan and boateng, too bad he won't be able to link up with wilshere for the national team but he can do that at arsenal.
     
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  2. I agree but perhaps they ran out of time in trying to seek last minute bargains. They could have secured players earlier of course..... Losing Jose Enrique was a bad move, or indeed lack of a move. Similarly, Scott Parker. If the club seem on a quest to repair the damage as may be seen from the frantic activity in the closing days of the previous transfer window then we can only hope that they assume some form of urgency come January. If we drop out of CL contention by then and miss a Top 4 placing then it could be two seasons out of the CL which would impair our chances of attracting decent players.
     
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  3. gunnersurprisepeople

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    Only ourselves to blame, we are unlucky with injuries it would seem but everyone on here and every supporter I know wanted another decent centre half. Wenger again wants to do it his way, chances are we will miss out on Cahill now in jan or next summer as their will be more interest and we cannot compete on wages, Roll on another Squeaky type signing to plug the whole and cue more frustration.
     
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  4. Grizzly

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    Maybe it's time to look at the training methods - we suffer way too many mid/long term injuries.
    Re TV, Wenger said last year that had he known the extent of the injury he would have brought someone else in, maybe TV just has one of those 'Ledley King' bodies...
     
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    Don't say that! King is an absolute crock, good players though, we have had some stinking injuries, Rosicky missed nearly 500 years as i recall and came back a changed man, not for the better.
     
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  6. I agre that we should certainly look at the training methods. It seems we are affected by injuries more than most teams so there has to be a pattern here that needs investigation.
     
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    Well modern day Arsenal players do have a habit of developing serious long term injuries and there has to be a reason.
    My memory goes back more than most I guess but in the 79-80 season we played 70 (I think) competitive games and half the squad played every game, todays players seem built differently
     
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  8. MrWright!

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    It could be more to do with our football, the constant quick pass and move pass and move etc results in alot of stress on joints from all the constant twisting spinning etc maybe a little more than most teams
    and the fact that we're moving the ball quickly it opens our players to to getting alot of little kicks etc from players which could cause some injuries

    But these things would only be short term knocks, which then turn into life long injuries after the physios/medical team have "fixed" them
     
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  9. gunnersurprisepeople

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    I think they are softer and any little niggle at all a massive deal is made over it.. very few players will play through any sort of pain barrier or sweat blood for their clubs as the players did in years gone by.
     
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    If you count song as a potential centre back, and include miquel, then we have 7 centre backs, im not sure it would be practical or affordable to have any more, i think we just need to get rid of a few and replace then, but we couldn't have gotten any more in terms of numbers, dose any other clubs have more than what we have? 5 established centre backs, a young up and coming centre back, and a midfielder who in my opinion is better at centre back than he is in midfield. its more about the quality than the quantity of our CBs.

    We are going to have a problem as it is when (and if) they are all fit. I don't think we can really afford to stockpile players, and probably wouldn't be able to with the 25 man squads (unless they were youngsters) but then if we were going for experience that would mean a problem with squad lists. All that would happen would be that we would need to leave a player out of the squad, squalichi (spelling lol) for example, so even if we did have a lot of injuries he wouldn't be able to play
     
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    Could be some truth in this although I don't see Messi, Iniesta and Xavi missing months of football.
    I don't know the answer but aside from the horrendous challenges on Ramsey and Eddy the injuries we suffer seem to be niggles that drag on that then become long term
     
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    that could be because of spanish football isn't as fast or rough as the premier league so theres less feet being left in etc
    and maybe their age and experience makes them that bit stronger

    but theres definatly something wrong, diaby hasn't been seen in years, and as soon as a player gets an injury you can tell their going to get alot more
     
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    Diaby needs to be put down, the lad is just a drain on wages and is of no assistance in general even when fit. What a waste as he has all the attributes.
     
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  14. We seem to have a glut of deadwood and ones we can't seem to shift as well.

    Don't know what to make of Diaby though. Can't even remember what he was like when he was fit. Do you think there may be something salvageable?
     
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    The problem is simple .. some of our players are weak ! they need to eat some African or Caribbean food, or proper English food, none of this arty farty food.

    If they ate some yam, dumplings, stew etc, they'd be tough as old boots.
     
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    I have always rated diaby highly, and think he had the potential to be a brilliant player, he can pick the ball up and run from one box to the other in seconds, very quick with the ball and strong enough to brush challenges of. But he is very frustrating and drifts in and out of games, due to his injuries he will probably never fulfil his undoubted potential. He gives us a different option tho because he can carry the ball, unlike most of our midfielder who rely on passing, that's not diaby strong point.

    I still think some fans have been a bit harsh on him tho, would love to see him stay fully fit for a couple of seasons to see what he can really do, If that were to happen I think he could be a really big player in the EPL.
     
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    I really doubt that, loads of teams play pass and move football but don't get injuries because of it. I think its something to do with our training methods.
     
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    I don't question his talent but what is the point in having a player who can't even do half the matches in a season. He isn't good enough to justify that.
     
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  19. Dare I say it again, our methods need further examining but will it happen?

    Our trainers and medical staff possibly need looking at too...
     
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