Wow - this thread has really been kicking off!!! All I will add to the debate is this - as far as I can see after listening to the Northern Irish fans after the match the other night they are just thoroughly pissed off at having to watch their team playing with absolutely no ambition in going forwards, instead sitting 11 men behind the ball for the whole game making it a bore fest. They have had enough of such awful negative tactics... especially away from home. Sorta reminds me of our Premier League campaign under Worthy when we couldn't win an away game all season long and let's face it if we had won just one away game that season we would have stayed up! As for comparisons with Lambo don't make me laugh. Paul Lambert has proved himself to be an incredible motivator of players who has built not one but two teams and taken them to successive promotions. Now he is moulding a third team in as many years. Even if we suffered relegation, which at the moment I feel confident we can avoid, I know that I would certainly prefer PL to be at the helm guiding an attempt at returning to the summit! Lambo knows more about tactics in his little finger than Worthy possesses in the whole of his body. There is one other factor with Lambo - he is lucky. Lucky managers always make for good managers... then again some people would just call that plain old skill.
fair enough. i've said i think he's done pretty well with the national team and should be kept on. i do think there are some people who think that cos he got promotion he is a great manager - it isn't the case.
I think the fact that all we had to do at Fulham was win, in order to stay up, shows that Worthy did an alright job that season. And if we had have managed it, surely he would have been lauded as a hero for years? Clearly he made some huge mistakes that year, and prior to and after that season also, but if the players had put in just half a performance on the last day, they may never have been questioned. It's all very well saying, with hindsight, that his transfer policy was wrong, but as yet we have no evidence that Lambert's is any better. (I'm not saying I don't support PL's transfers btw, just pointing out that it's all very well saying Worthy got it wrong, but we don't yet know if Lambert will do any better). Also, as many have said, if Ashton had been signed earlier, we would have stayed up. Don't blame Worthy for this, blame the board. btw, a very interesting read: http://www.dh6.co.uk/s6a1n77p1/Nigel-Worthington.html
i think comparing worthington to lambert is a non-starter. the gulf is immense in terms of ability and nous. totally agree the board were at fault more times than i can remember during the decade 99-09. in fact, its only the appointment of mcnally that has ever given me confidence in our board. finally, the club have someone in charge off the pitch who knows what he is doing.
The two teams have totally different work ethics if you ask me. Worthington had the odd flair player people who in the right frame of mind could change games for you like your Huckerbys etc, whilst Lamberts team operate more like collective you can tell there is more unity and it's more about the team.
Oh I totally agree that Lambert's teams are completely different (and I'd rather have Lambert's style of player any day); just pointing out that, as of the present, Lambert has achieved no more than Worthy in this league. Come May, I hope that he will have achieved much more.
true cheshire. however, despite both starting their city career with a team on a low ebb, the job lambert has done in just two years far outshines worthington's achievements. to be fair though, it outshines the vast majority of managers around the country! if we do go down, we will be a million times better prepared to try and return at the first time of asking this time around. last time i swear we had no plan whatsoever!!
There can be little doubt that Lambert is a better Manager than Worthington and, bearing in mind the hole we were in when he arrived, arguably the best we have ever had BUT I can guarantee that if, come February, we are in the bottom 3 and in the middle of a losing run there will be some ' Lambert out ' idiots come out of the woodwork and they won't just be on the after match call in for annoying twerps who have never been to Carrow Road in 20 years.
Slightly off topic, check out itv4, iwan Roberts (meantioned above) is playing in a England vs Wales legends game now Christ Neville southall is rather rotund now although typically he's just been subbed off
rotund NOW?!?!?! he was rotund when he was 22!! still, apart from schmeichel, the best keeper i've ever seen.
Ok he's like a barrel, I was being kind For some reason iwan is playing centre back; how scary would that have been in his prime, having to face big iwan!