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Nigel must stay

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by lamby, Oct 28, 2012.

  1. gomarchingin

    gomarchingin New Member

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    Listen bollocks ,

    Put the scores down and have some .

    Did not see the above .
     
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  2. gomarchingin

    gomarchingin New Member

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    Joe you are 22 you have not seen that many <laugh>
     
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  3. gomarchingin

    gomarchingin New Member

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    If we go with that , he will be close to getting the sack , 11 points after 14 games is not good enough .

     
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  4. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Thank you , you are absolutely right. Even if we did get relegated, which I don't think we will, Nigel still deserves to have a chance of bringing us back up again. Our most successful manager of all time, Lawrie Mcmenemy, took us down from Division One the first season he was in charge, but was backed by the board, and won us the FA Cup two years later. 2 years after that we were back in the top flight, and a few years later nearly won the league. Stability is everything in football, and when you are lucky enough to have a manager as good as Adkins, it is essential. There really isn't anyone else around who is likely to do any better than him, so why change?
     
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  5. Joe!

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    21 managers in my lifetime. That's more than half of the managers Saints have ever had.
     
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  6. Osvaldorama

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    I disagree. It's a long season.

    We are a better than Villa, Norwich and Reading. QPR are improving so will be a constant threat but once we win a few and have Gaston back things will start looking rosier. If we start picking up a few points we will start to spring a few suprises on the big clubs as well. It is all about confidence. I also fully expect us to spend a large amount of money in january on the defence.
     
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  7. gomarchingin

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    Its a result driven business now , if we go down it would be admirable to keep him yes , but would Cortese do that ? After he said we would be relegated under him ? I cant see it .
     
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  8. gomarchingin

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    So we will stay up not on merit but because others are worse than us ? Thats hardly a reason to keep flying the Adkins flag is it ? Also you say we will bolster the defence in January ? We will at vastly overinflated prices , thats hardly good business is it when we all knew our defence was crap at the start of the season , so instead of having time to select defenders we have to know panic buy to keep us in the League , thats not clever by a long stretch .
     
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  9. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    What can we do about it now? Why do you insist on repeating yourself 20 times a day, on every single thread? We all know that you think that. Yet you keep saying it all day every day. Do us all a favour and stop whining. Things aren't going great at the moment - fine. None of us are blind. We know that we are in trouble.

    I apologise about calling you a prick earlier in the thread, that was uncalled for. But genuinely, please start adding things to the discussion instead of just repeating yourself all the time in such a negative manner.
     
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  10. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    I'm not quoting GMI so those of you ignoring him don't have to read his bollocks. Football has always been a results-driven business. It was in 1974 anyway, but the Saints board took the long view, just as Cortese would today. He knows that NA is the man for Southampton, and any changes this season will be on the field, not in the manager's post.
     
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    So you are saying that if we get relegated Cortese wont sack Adkins ? If so I have to disagree entirely , what makes you come to this opinon when you have just said like me that football is a results driven business , Cortese is a businessman not a football man , so do you think he would would then make a long term football decision ?
     
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    Apology accepted .
     
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  13. ollysaints1

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    I imagine Nigel will have more time, but any less than 7 points from our next 5 games and he will surely be gone, 2 wins and a draw is minimum requirement. Also Boruc can **** off, he only looks interested in collecting his pay packet
     
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  14. Pelletron

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    I'd go with you for the Swansea and Norwich games. Reckon we'll lose against West Brom, and draw against QPR, though. I'm hoping for a draw against Newcastle (don't know how, but am sure Pardew will find some way to score) - perhaps learning from today's experience against a similar team, but obviously hoping Ba's injury today keeps him out until after that game! Is difficult, though, because a loss at West Brom could start a further deterioration in confidence which we will take to our next games. Nerves could play a part against QPR and Norwich, due to the stakes being higher, and being six pointers. I would say we have to expect a draw at minimum with QPR - I know it's away, but their defence is almost as bad as ours, and with our strikers on form, we have got to put a minimum of two past them, and they are not as much of a scoring threat as we are.

    Reckon realistically, though, we can get 7-9 points from those.

    Can I take my bollocks down now, please? <ok>
     
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  15. gomarchingin

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    I do not know why we have this live affair with Celtic rejects I really dont , who signed Boruc ? I said it was a bloocks signing at the time and still wait to be proved wrong , fat and lazy and also loves the grog , would not be a problem if he was good .
    Fox and Hooiveld oh dont get me started , if they were sold willingly by an SPL club and hardly played at all thats enough to give a wide berth , you dont need to be a genius to figure that out .
     
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  16. gomarchingin

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    Of course <laugh>
     
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    My biggest fear with talk of replacing Adkins isn't the change in manager (though there's that), it would be the change in outlook that would probably accompany. If we hire a manager whose priority is survival, our team -- our signings, our tactics -- will start to be one geared for exactly that. We have taken a risk building a young, very talented, and attack-minded team designed to compete for much more, knowing that there was considerable inherent risk. I liked that risk then, I like that risk now; let's see it out.
     
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  18. gomarchingin

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    But we will sell all our best players if we go down ? Thats not business to lose them thats crazy , we sure as ****e wont replace with better .
     
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  19. Schad

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    If we stay up by playing survival football, then guess what? Our best players are still likely to leave. Might have them for an extra year or two, but bottom-third teams don't tend to be much more successful hanging on to their stars than yo-yo teams, though they may extract a bit more money for their efforts. If we want to build a team where players want to be long-term, we need to have our sights set a little higher.
     
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  20. gomarchingin

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    So being relegated is a positive this is it ?
     
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