After the heartbreak last night, what do you think is the best course of action to prepare us for next season. Obviously I run the risk of being shot down by eternal optimists, but I would think that now it is almost a done deal regarding relegation (would love to be proven wrong). Do we start giving other players a run? Should Bothroyd, Derry, Green etc be in the starting XI now to get them fired up and feel a little more valued? Who do you think will be leaving? Shame that we are in this state as Remy really has started to look like that 20 goal a season player we have been searching for, but understandibly so will not being hanging around once we are in the Champs. What a minging two seasons we have had......a few great moments last season (happy to say that I was there for the Liverpool and Stoke game), but this season really has been the worst since the Vauxhall Motors day. Would never have thought we would be in this state after last season and the investments put into the club. Hope TF and Amit hang around, we still need their positivity (and cash!).......we just need to learn how to win ugly again. One wish for me........maybe a shock result or two for the remainder of the season, personally a win against Everton would be quality (best mates team)......... RTID
As I said in the other thread, play the players who want to be here next season. If not now, when we are mathematically done.
I can't even contemplate it Newbury. I felt physically sick when that equaliser went in and still do now. It was unbelievable the atmosphere inside HQ when that happened. I've never felt it in 44 years of going there to watch football before. I apologise for the poor analogy, but I could only liken it to the surreal silence that I experience when I attend a fatal car crash. It was exactly like that. I feel so numb at the moment.
QPR999, You have hit the nail on the head. It was nearly 1am when I was watching it, and knew as soon as Mbia gave that free-kick away it was in the back of the net. Couldn't get to sleep for two hours after that. Silly isn't it........daft that this little club in West London tugs on the heart strings so much.....we have the best fans in the world, because all of our fans (perhaps not the the newly recruited South East Asian crew) have had absolute bellyful of lows, a few highs, but mostly disapointment and still rock up every week. Has another club been such a circus? To name a few: - Prince and Jones fatality - Flavio and Bernie saga - Administration - Barton. - Countless managers - Last two seasons. - Faurlin - even we could screw up a promotion celebration. Possibly more difficult to swallow than the play-off loss.......can only imagine the stunned fans at LR. Gutted.
Flyer....don't think yesterday was through lack of effort? I mean, Zamora isn't a malicious player but perhaps the situation got the better of him. Same for Mackie not holding the ball up and Mbia giving away free-kick. To much adrenaline etc perhaps. The picture of the Mbia and the others holding their heads in their hands on the QPR website says it all. Mbia may be the scapegoat and doubt he will be with us next season (which I think would be a shame), but he always puts in a shift and responds well to the fans.
At the moment, in this country, there is an endemic of scumbags who stop their cars for no reason. This causes the driver following behind to run into the back of them. ( Effectively a rear end shunt. ) This is what Maloney did, and M'Bia was the victim of this crime. The experienced ref (Dowd) fell for it and blew before Maloney hit the deck, he seemingly couldn't wait to give them the free-kick. A **** ref as I have ever seen. And his linesmen. Very poor.
I don't think it effected me so much because I was already feeling like relegation was a very likely thing and also I am not surprised by anything as a qpr fan anymore. When Zamora got the red, I didn't react at all. It just seemed like a normal qpr game to me. Don't get me wrong, I am gutted but I don't think it's the end if the world. We'll be back in the premiership before long.
A goal four minutes after full time, why wouldn't you feel like shi-it. To think that Moroccan could of at least got his big mouth in the way to stop any shot on goal. I shouldn't blame Tarbs but dam it, he shoots his mouth off when it suits him so he could at least get it in the way............. I'm just sounding off.
Much as it pains me to say it Newbury, you are conflating bad luck and mismanagement. The first on your list were two terrible tragedies, outside of our control. The others are all poor management of the club - not luck. Luck on the pitch evens itself out over the course of the season; our players have not performed up to their potential, and much of that is down to a certain Mr Hughes. I wish I could put it down to luck, but I can't!
That's better Flyer We ain't down mate not yet and we showed yesterday we can still play a bit ... These players at the moment have the right composure to get us wins . Lets give Everton a game now That should be the only focus
The successful QPR teams that I have witnessed and supported have had a strong spine. Think: Camp/Carlisle/Bircham/Rowlands/Ainsworth/Furlong/Gallen (03/04) and Kenny/Hill/Gorrks/Derry/Mackie/Smith/Routledge/Taarabt (10/11) Both teams had one or two individuals who could score regularly, in Taarabt/Routledge and Furlong/Gallen, and other players who would work very very hard for the team. Clearly we need to keep players who are going to work hard for the team, Derry, Hill, Green, Faurlin, Mackie, Onuoha, Ephraim (yes!), Zamora, Bothroyd, Jenas. Let anyone who wants to go leave. We can't afford to have anyone in the squad that's not 100% behind the mission to get us back up. If Taarabt, Remy, Granero and Mbia want to go, then let them go. If we can keep one or two 'better' flair players, especially Taarabt, then they will give us that something extra needed to win us games. In terms of signings; we need to be careful. Clearly, signing 10 players every window does not work. We need to develop what we have, the Ephraim's of our squad, who with the right coaching can be a success at Championship level. We need to sign two or three good quality players and no more. Boothroyd, Zamora & Mackie should be three of our four strikers, with one more singing, who's a proven Championship goalscorer along the lines of Jordan Rhodes. My starting XI would be as follows: Green Onuoha, Hill, Ferdinand, Trarore Mbia(or Derry)/Diakete Ephraim/Taarabt/SWP (or Hoilett/Mackie) And then Zamora (or Bothroyd) up top. I think that's good enough or a playoff push without any new signings. Let me say, by way of concussion, that I in no way underestimate how tough the CCC is. It's difficult. Look at Blackburn and Wolves. With the right manager we can do it though.
Let's be realistic. We were poor yesterday apart from 2 flashes from Remy. We are just not good enough as a team. We have decent players but we haven't struck on the right balance in the same way as the Championship winning team. A series of errors conspired to throwing away 2 points yesterday (3 points versus Wigan). Felt physically sick when they scored and still queasy now.
Self pity and conducting post mortems at this stage are not going to help at all. We may be in intensive care but we are not dead yet. No team this far behind with this number of games to go has ever survived before. There is always a first time, our survival would overshadow anything else that happens this season. We can never calmly resign ourselves to the 9th circle of hell that is the Championship. No speculation until its nailed on. 18 points on the table.
Beautiful stuff .................. In the past, Wigan have escaped the jaws of death when everyone thought they were gone ................ yes, it is a long shot but imagine the euphoria if we could pull it off. There would never be a better feeling for all. 1 - We would have dodged a bullet. 2 - We get to keep the all the players. 3 - We would be in the PL next year for the increased dollars from TV rights, etc. 4 - Harry would certainly stay and this 'feel good' factor of staying up would be the glue that really bonds this team. 5 - And then some .............. .
I picked this up from Dot Org. Apart from all the 'doom and gloom' about finances its quite a good post. Agree with most of this and TF and Co need to look at our history (1996) to see what happens when you keep a team when relegated. For me I want shot of most of this team because they won't play in the Championship. Can you imagine Boswinga playing at Barnsley on a cold Tuesday night?
Sums it up perfectly Nines. On our way home me, my dad, and my mum said virtually nothing to eachother until we were almost home. I cant describe how low I felt yesterday evening, and still do now. I think everyone knew it was the end of our PL stay. You could hear a pin drop.
Weve been on the brink of losing our club before,we have been relegated before and thats just life on the QPR rollacoaster. Even when your lying in the gutter...you can still see the stars
It was a relief to me, this season has been like staying with a girlfriend both knowing its not working and not having the guts to split up, slowly killing you from the inside, you have to do the short term pain for the long term gain. Ive now got that relief that its happened and am thinking of getting rid of the wasters and getting on with it.
That makes sense, but for me, as I have said on other threads - it also means we are likely to lose one of the best finishers, if not the best, we have had in recent years.
